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I like Mahomes and think he can be a worthwhile prospect to develop as a qbotf. The key word being "develop" however. He has physical talents that allow him to get away with poor habits. His current comfort level in 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center is inadequate for the next level - he has admitted as much. Mayock called it out out, Gruden pointed it out, and the only thing that will fix it is a lot of practice and time to groom it. Mahomes admitted he has never played under center EVER. What a dis-service high school and college coaching is doing to qb prospects nowadays. You are separating a lot of the component mechanics in your analysis of him, which I think is accurate, but a lot of it goes back to footwork (weight transfer, torque, narrow/wide base, etc.) The way I see Mahomes? + High ceiling with rare, elite arm talent and positive intangibles. Guts. Athletic enough to extend plays. Can make every throw. - Bails the pocket and detects pressure that is not there. Will need time to acclimate to a pro-style scheme with regards to under-center play and verbiage. Makes high-risk decisions at times looking for the big play when game situations dictate otherwise. Ball security can be cleaned up. |
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I do agree with your analysis though. I do hate when people think the pundits are the bible. I challenge King to watch every snap Mahomes takes and chart how many throws he deems improper. I'll then watch them and we can see if we agree. |
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You think this is all bullshit? http://presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/p...ure-of-upside/
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04-16-2017, 07:25 PM | #6 |
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After the first 8 games last season:
508 total plays. 344 out of shotgun for 68% 164 under center for 32% Of those 164: 114 were rushes for 70% 50 were passes for 30% Overall 50 pass plays from under center out of 508 total plays for just under 10%. |
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04-17-2017, 02:26 AM | #7 | |
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just flat-out, good info. Thanks for doing that.
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04-16-2017, 08:52 PM | #8 | |
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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...4&postcount=41 But, here's two vids you can watch side-by-side: And yes, I have a problem with the article because they take a "sometimes he does this wrong" and turn it into "his footwork needs to be completely revamped." The point I'm trying to pound on the table right now is that this entire thought process is 100% wrong. MOST of the time, and that I'm saying is likely around 80-85%, the kid throws the ball from set feet and with fine mechanics. But it is that other 15-20% of the time where he's throwing these balls on awkward angles, off a hop, on the move without setting, etc, that these people are using to say there is some enormous problem. Simple fact is you can't just make gross overstatements. Now, you look at that 15-20% of "problematic" throws and you determine what of those were actually bad passes? 5%? 10%? What is it? Can you live with that? I sure as **** can. For a guy that trusts his nutsack and is willing to put the ball into tight windows and make plays, you bet your ass I'll take the occasional shit throw. You know his position coaches in the NFL are going to absolutely hammer shit into this kid's head to keep him from making some of these errors. He picked up a good amount just working with Gruden for an hour, and you notice him changing the way he holds the ball throughout the video. I think Mahomes gets it and he knows he has to do some work in the NFL. He has to listen, or he won't make it. If this kid doesn't remind of you of Aaron Rodgers, then I'm not entirely sure I'll ever convince you and I sure know I'm done trying. What's that annoying saying down South? "You gotta risk it to get the biscuit?" |
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Let's not forget this very article could be a poker play pushed by some team that wants him to drop as well which IMHO is what this article is about.
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