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Old 11-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #1
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NO ONE is going to pay Cassel that 7.5 million he's due.

But he won't stay here because he's arrogant, entitled ****.
Can't say I disagree w/ this.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #2
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:44 PM   #3
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It won't matter if Pioli isn't fired. He will take Landry Jones.

In the second round.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:45 PM   #4
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It won't matter if Pioli isn't fired. He will take Landry Jones.


****....

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Old 11-22-2012, 12:53 PM   #5
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Who gives a **** if his footwork is good if he can't throw a damn football.

And by the way his footwork is poor.

Just about everything he does behind center is horseshit.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:54 PM   #6
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Who gives a **** if his footwork is good if he can't throw a damn football.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:14 PM   #7
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yeah, i never thought he would be a good pro prospect.


he could prove me wrong, but i doubt it.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:25 PM   #8
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Not a great year for qbs. Doesn't that figure.

We either go safe with Barkley. His ceiling is probably a borderline top 10 qb but I think he will be pretty much a sure thing. Or you go with geno who, sorry geno fans, is boom/bust. Much higher ceiling, but also major bust potential.

I still say we draft geno and use another early pick on a qb. Maybe someone like Glennon or Jordan Rodgers (later pick).
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:28 PM   #9
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Not a great year for qbs. Doesn't that figure.

We either go safe with Barkley. His ceiling is probably a borderline top 10 qb but I think he will be pretty much a sure thing. Or you go with geno who, sorry geno fans, is boom/bust. Much higher ceiling, but also major bust potential.

I still say we draft geno and use another early pick on a qb. Maybe someone like Glennon or Jordan Rodgers (later pick).
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:48 PM   #10
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Not a great year for qbs. Doesn't that figure.

We either go safe with Barkley. His ceiling is probably a borderline top 10 qb but I think he will be pretty much a sure thing. Or you go with geno who, sorry geno fans, is boom/bust. Much higher ceiling, but also major bust potential.

I still say we draft geno and use another early pick on a qb. Maybe someone like Glennon or Jordan Rodgers (later pick).
Ive heard you say this dumb shit a few times and its absolutely ridiculous.

What exactly gives Geno this "major bust potential"?

What is his "fatal flaw" that he needs to overcome and if he doesnt, he will bust?
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:56 PM   #11
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What exactly gives Geno this "major bust potential"?
Just like any other QB coming out. When you have a high ceiling and a low floor you have more potential to bust than a person with a higher floor.
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Ive heard you say this dumb shit a few times and its absolutely ridiculous.

What exactly gives Geno this "major bust potential"?

What is his "fatal flaw" that he needs to overcome and if he doesnt, he will bust?
Don't be an idiot. I am saying his upside is worth the risk. But only cp is trying to make the case that he is a perfectly unflawed qb. In most qb classes, he is tier 2.

If he is flawless as you try to paint him to be, there is no reason anybody should be debating him as the #1 pick in a lackluster qb class. Or why many nfl analysts are hesitant to put him there.

This place overreacts. I like him. But to pretend he isn't riskier than many #1 qbs is laughable.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:34 PM   #13
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Don't be an idiot. I am saying his upside is worth the risk. But only cp is trying to make the case that he is a perfectly unflawed qb. In most qb classes, he is tier 2.

If he is flawless as you try to paint him to be, there is no reason anybody should be debating him as the #1 pick in a lackluster qb class. Or why many nfl analysts are hesitant to put him there.

This place overreacts. I like him. But to pretend he isn't riskier than many #1 qbs is laughable.
Dont dodge the question I posed.

You said he has "major bust potential" and I simply asked what specifically gave you this thought.

Is he dumb?
Bad arm?
Poor accuracy?
Cant read defenses?
Doesnt understand coverages?
Immobile?
Bad leader?
Injury prone?
Is he an asshole off the field?

For you to make a bullshit claim like "he has major bust potential", surely you had something to base that claim off of...

Im just asking what you see that I am missing...
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:56 PM   #14
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Dont dodge the question I posed.

You said he has "major bust potential" and I simply asked what specifically gave you this thought.

Is he dumb?
Bad arm?
Poor accuracy?
Cant read defenses?
Doesnt understand coverages?
Immobile?
Bad leader?
Injury prone?
Is he an asshole off the field?

For you to make a bullshit claim like "he has major bust potential", surely you had something to base that claim off of...

Im just asking what you see that I am missing...
I've said this before. He is not rgIII, who ran a college offense, but we knew could win with his legs even if he wasn't a master at a pro offense (even in terms of being a pure pocket passer, he doesn't walk in with nearly the impressive pedigree as rgIII). He isn't Andrew luck, who we knew would MASTER a pocket based pro offense.

He is going to have to win games with his head. He is mobile enough, but not enough to mask inability to win in the pocket. People point to a "good enough" job in an average pro offense a few years ago. Today, he runs a very college oriented system where he isn't asked to go through progressions. He hasn't played against super complicated defenses to give us a feel for how he will react to out thinking a brilliant defense. We have to take leaps of faith that his football iq, coachability, and work ethic will help him do that.

Again. I would take him in a heartbeat. But fans of bad teams are the only ones who pretend he comes without risk. It's another case of cp exaggerating about a guy they like. Outside of cp, he is universally viewed as a borderline #1 pick in a lackluster qb class. If he is as clear cut as you say, given his skill set, he would be a consensus #1. The only reason hes becoming more of a consensus pick is because barkleys stock is nose diving.
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Ive heard you say this dumb shit a few times and its absolutely ridiculous.

What exactly gives Geno this "major bust potential"?

What is his "fatal flaw" that he needs to overcome and if he doesnt, he will bust?
By the way... The last time you called me out for saying dumb shit was because I didn't hop on the bandwagon that we should hire a 60 year old offensive coordinator who just a year ago was pretty widely hated by educated steelers fans.
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