Royals Royals sign Jeremy Guthrie - Page 4

duncan_idaho · 11-20-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Guthrie lifetime 55-77 with 4.28 ERA...led leagues in losses twice (09 & 11) career WHIP of 1.31 KC continue to load up on back end starters

Guthrie has been a league-average pitcher over the course of his career, pitching in the toughest division in baseball and in a home hitter's park.

I expect he'll end up around a 3.75-4.00 ERA, with 200 IP, playing for KC in this park.

KevB · 11-20-2012, 12:01 PM

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
Hearing solid reviews of the Royals' three-year, $25m deal with Guthrie from rival execs. They think it's a fair price, given the market.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11-20-2012, 12:03 PM

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

After the acquisition of Santana and agreement with Guthrie...Royals show they are determined to not be the A's or O's of 2013 #$38million$$

What did the Royals do to Jim Bowden?

ChiefsCountry · 11-20-2012, 12:15 PM

If David Price is coming to Kansas City I could live with giving up some players.

**alnorth** · 11-20-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If David Price is coming to Kansas City I could live with giving up some players.

heh, no kidding. I'm sure the Rays will hang on to that one.

Tampa has pitchers coming out of their ears and a weak offense, so they are a natural trading partner.

teedubya · 11-20-2012, 12:34 PM

IMO, this is awesome. He pitched LIGHTS OUT... and he WANTED TO STAY in Kansas City. That is a good sign to help get other FA's here.

tk13 · 11-20-2012, 12:41 PM

At this point I'm okay with trading whoever we have to trade for pitching, as long as its a fair deal. If that means Myers, so be it. This team is not going to win jack without more pitching. It just isn't... otherwise we're spinning our wheels with a lot of shiny offensive toys.

That said, I'm not nearly as down on Hosmer as everyone else.
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Codered · 11-20-2012, 12:45 PM

The Royals need pitching ... That much is obvious. I would prefer they traded Hosmer, but there is a lot of smoke arround Myers.

I just hope it's for more then Hellickson like heavily rumored.

CaliforniaChief · 11-20-2012, 01:19 PM

We've said all along that we're going to have to part with some highly touted stud minor leaguers to flip them for proven talent.

This is particularly true in our situation, where we need pitching. Look at San Francisco and the garbage they ran out at many positions, only to beast through pitching.

If we have to trade Myers, fine. You can get serviceable outfielders a lot easier than a stud starting pitcher. We've got Cain and Gordon already. Hell, David Glass should just blow himself up and give us Josh Hamilton in right.

In all seriousness, I'm ok with flipping young talent if we get good pitching.

**DeezNutz** · 11-20-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

We've said all along that we're going to have to part with some highly touted stud minor leaguers to flip them for proven talent.

This is particularly true in our situation, where we need pitching. Look at San Francisco and the garbage they ran out at many positions, only to beast through pitching.

If we have to trade Myers, fine. You can get serviceable outfielders a lot easier than a stud starting pitcher. We've got Cain and Gordon already. Hell, David Glass should just blow himself up and give us Josh Hamilton in right.

In all seriousness, I'm ok with flipping young talent if we get good pitching.

There is no one on this board who has banged the trade-prospects-for-proven-talent drum louder than me, but we should have been trading pitching prospects, since they don't exist anyway, and we have exactly jack and shit to show for all of those "stud" pitchers down on the farm.

CaliforniaChief · 11-20-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There is no one on this board who has banged the trade-prospects-for-proven-talent drum louder than me, but we should have been trading pitching prospects, since they don't exist anyway, and we have exactly jack and shit to show for all of those "stud" pitchers down on the farm.

Dr. Frank Jobe disagrees with this.

**DeezNutz** · 11-20-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Dr. Frank Jobe disagrees with this.

Yep, happy holidays. $$$

**HemiEd** · 11-20-2012, 01:49 PM

It has been a long time since I was excited about the upcoming baseball season in November.

That would probably mean the Chiefs suck ass, and the Royals are a contender again.

It must be the 80s all over again, bring on April!

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11-20-2012, 01:52 PM

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst

Teams that have been talking to #Royals say they're not done shopping for starting pitchers but now more likely to go young than another vet

ShowtimeSBMVP · 11-20-2012, 01:59 PM

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst

I don't see them dealing Myers to Rays or anyone else. RT @chanutehawk: @jaysonst @SeaTownsFinest1 Wil Myers to tampa seems more likely.

11-20-2012, 12:01 PM	#2
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN Hearing solid reviews of the Royals' three-year, $25m deal with Guthrie from rival execs. They think it's a fair price, given the market.
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11-20-2012, 12:03 PM	#3
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3536009	JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm After the acquisition of Santana and agreement with Guthrie...Royals show they are determined to not be the A's or O's of 2013 #$38million$$ What did the Royals do to Jim Bowden?
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11-20-2012, 12:15 PM	#4
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11-20-2012, 12:34 PM	#6
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11-20-2012, 12:41 PM	#7
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1852500	At this point I'm okay with trading whoever we have to trade for pitching, as long as its a fair deal. If that means Myers, so be it. This team is not going to win jack without more pitching. It just isn't... otherwise we're spinning our wheels with a lot of shiny offensive toys. That said, I'm not nearly as down on Hosmer as everyone else. Posted via Mobile Device
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11-20-2012, 12:45 PM	#8
Codered Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $8888190	The Royals need pitching ... That much is obvious. I would prefer they traded Hosmer, but there is a lot of smoke arround Myers. I just hope it's for more then Hellickson like heavily rumored.
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11-20-2012, 01:19 PM	#9
CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12392899	We've said all along that we're going to have to part with some highly touted stud minor leaguers to flip them for proven talent. This is particularly true in our situation, where we need pitching. Look at San Francisco and the garbage they ran out at many positions, only to beast through pitching. If we have to trade Myers, fine. You can get serviceable outfielders a lot easier than a stud starting pitcher. We've got Cain and Gordon already. Hell, David Glass should just blow himself up and give us Josh Hamilton in right. In all seriousness, I'm ok with flipping young talent if we get good pitching.
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11-20-2012, 01:49 PM	#13
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $3140564	It has been a long time since I was excited about the upcoming baseball season in November. That would probably mean the Chiefs suck ass, and the Royals are a contender again. It must be the 80s all over again, bring on April!
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11-20-2012, 01:52 PM	#14
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3536009	Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst Teams that have been talking to #Royals say they're not done shopping for starting pitchers but now more likely to go young than another vet
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11-20-2012, 01:59 PM	#15
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3536009	Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst I don't see them dealing Myers to Rays or anyone else. RT @chanutehawk: @jaysonst @SeaTownsFinest1 Wil Myers to tampa seems more likely.
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