Going to need Reaper16/NewChief to confirm...

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I was pointing out that Industrial has always had dark themes. It wasn't something that just came up in the 2000s.

Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by Swanman

Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.

Fear Factory didn't exist before the '90s and the certainly weren't remotely industrial. Ministry borrowed from industrial and were proginators of the industrial metal scene, but again, not really industrial. Throbbing Gristle was industrial. Caberet Voltaire was industrial. Einsturzende Neubauten were industrial. All great bands, though hard to listen to at times.