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Old 01-30-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.
I am not extremely familiar with Jarvis Jones' condition. However, look at Da'Quan Bowers. No one wanted to touch him, he ended up going 51st. Even with missing time due to injury, he has (according to PFF) outplayed every 4-3 DE taken ahead of him: Robert Quinn, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Jordan, and Jabaal Sheard.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:59 AM   #2
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I am not extremely familiar with Jarvis Jones' condition. However, look at Da'Quan Bowers. No one wanted to touch him, he ended up going 51st. Even with missing time due to injury, he has (according to PFF) outplayed every 4-3 DE taken ahead of him: Robert Quinn, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Jordan, and Jabaal Sheard.
Jarvis Jones has spinal stenosis.

Bowers had a knee condition, IIRC.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:13 AM   #3
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I am not extremely familiar with Jarvis Jones' condition. However, look at Da'Quan Bowers. No one wanted to touch him, he ended up going 51st. Even with missing time due to injury, he has (according to PFF) outplayed every 4-3 DE taken ahead of him: Robert Quinn, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Jordan, and Jabaal Sheard.

According to PFF maybe.......

Jordan had 8 sacks and 66 tackles last year. Plus 3 fumbles forced.
Sheard had 7 sacks and 55 tackles last year. Plus 1 fumble forced.
Bowers had 3 sacks and 13 tackles last year. Zero fumbles forced.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:40 AM   #4
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According to PFF maybe.......

Jordan had 8 sacks and 66 tackles last year. Plus 3 fumbles forced.
Sheard had 7 sacks and 55 tackles last year. Plus 1 fumble forced.
Bowers had 3 sacks and 13 tackles last year. Zero fumbles forced.
Bowers played part time, he replaced Daniel Teo-Nesheim. He played 292 snaps, while Jordan played 1059 and Sheard played 1015.
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Bowers played part time, he replaced Daniel Teo-Nesheim. He played 292 snaps, while Jordan played 1059 and Sheard played 1015.
Poor argument then. Small sample size. Like comparing per/48 stats in NBA
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Bowers played part time, he replaced Daniel Teo-Nesheim. He played 292 snaps, while Jordan played 1059 and Sheard played 1015.
How can you say he outplayed them when he couldn't even manage to get on the field?
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:44 PM   #7
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How can you say he outplayed them when he couldn't even manage to get on the field?
Injury. But, whatever. I don't care about Bowers, just trying to show that passing on a guy because everyone else is isn't always the smart move.

It wasn't injury related, but that is how Houston became a Chief.
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