Worst to First?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, so go look at the schedule and tell me the 11 wins you see for KC and the 10 wins you see for Denver.

So, let me know the 11 and 10 wins you see for the teams... I'm quite curious.

Denver:

1. Ravens: Win
2. @ Giants: Loss
3. Raiders: Win
4. Eagles: Win
5. @ Cowboys: Loss
6. Jaguars: Win
7. @ Colts: Loss
8. Redskins: Win
9. Bye
10. @ Chargers: Win
11. Chiefs: Win
12. @ Pats: Loss
13. @ Chiefs: Loss
14. Titans: Win
15. Chargers: Win
16. @ Texans: Loss
17. @ Raiders: Win

10-6 Wildcard

Chiefs:

1. @ Jaguars: Win
2. Cowboys: Win
3. @ Eagles: Win
4. Giants: Loss
5. @ Titans: Win
6. Raiders: Win
7. Texans: Loss
8. Browns: Win
9. @ Bills: Loss
10. Bye
11. @ Broncos: Loss
12. Chargers: Win
13. Broncos: Win
14. @ Redskins: Loss
15. @ Raiders: Win
16. Colts: Win
17. @ Chargers: Win

11-5, AFC West Divisional Champions

The bolded part stood out to me... yeah, I think Bowe is a very good WR. But, the TEs and the other WRs are a bag of spares at this point. Yes, Charles is good, but Smith isn't a Flacco type... hell, he's a little better than an Orton type, maybe.

Fasano is solid, Moeaki can be very good depending upon injury rehab and Kelce is a rookie, so we'll see but he was pretty hyped following his last season in college going into the draft. That's a pretty good three deep rotation at the TE spot.

And as I stated, the #2 WR spot is a question mark. Baldwin has as good a physical ability and size as anyone in the league. I think having Smith at QB and the West Coast system will help him tremendously. In addition, McCluster will be solid as the 3/4 guy (depending upon what they want to do with him on returns versus the passing game - sounds like he's going to be the full time return man). I think Hemingway will end up being the #4 guy behind Bowe, Baldwin and Avery with McCluster seeing gimmick/gadget action on offense and being the full time return guy.

And you are flat out bat shit crazy if you think that Smith is "a little better than an Orton type, maybe."

Smith was top three in the league last year in completion percentage, QB rating and yards per attempt. He's athletic, a legit 6'4", 230 lbs., very smart and doesn't give the ball to the defense. Extremely efficient with his passing and will be supported by a system that fits his skill set to a "T" and an extremely good running game. The Chiefs will be very balanced offensively and Smith is a big reason for that.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Chiefs:

1. @ Jaguars: Win
2. Cowboys: Win
3. @ Eagles: Win
4. Giants: Loss
5. @ Titans: Win
6. Raiders: Win
7. Texans: Loss
8. Browns: Win
9. @ Bills: Loss
10. Bye
11. @ Broncos: Loss
12. Chargers: Win
13. Broncos: Win
14. @ Redskins: Loss
15. @ Raiders: Win
16. Colts: Win
17. @ Chargers: Win

11-5, AFC West Divisional Champions

We always win a game that we had no business winning and losing at least one that we had no business losing.

I see you predicted a loss to the Bills (which, lately, would be par for the course), but which is your most likely candidate for the game that we steal?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

We always win a game that we had no business winning and losing at least one that we had no business losing.

I see you predicted a loss to the Bills (which, lately, would be par for the course), but which is your most likely candidate for the game that we steal?

Texans or Denver I'm guessing

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

We always win a game that we had no business winning and losing at least one that we had no business losing.

I see you predicted a loss to the Bills (which, lately, would be par for the course), but which is your most likely candidate for the game that we steal?

I agree with losing to the Bills, as well. We haven't won in Buffalo since 1986. No question, the Chiefs play their worst in Buffalo. As for game we could steal, I'd have to go with the Redskins. We've never lost to them and I think we can handle the option.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Denver:

1. Ravens: Win
2. @ Giants: Loss
3. Raiders: Win
4. Eagles: Win
5. @ Cowboys: Win
6. Jaguars: Win
7. @ Colts: Win
8. Redskins: Win
9. Bye
10. @ Chargers: Win
11. Chiefs: Win
12. @ Pats: Loss
13. @ Chiefs: Win
14. Titans: Win
15. Chargers: Win
16. @ Texans: Loss
17. @ Raiders: Win

13-3 Division Winners

Chiefs:

1. @ Jaguars: Loss
2. Cowboys: Loss
3. @ Eagles: Win
4. Giants: Loss
5. @ Titans: Win
6. Raiders: Win
7. Texans: Loss
8. Browns: Win
9. @ Bills: Loss
10. Bye
11. @ Broncos: Loss
12. Chargers: Win
13. Broncos: Loss
14. @ Redskins: Loss
15. @ Raiders: Win
16. Colts: Loss
17. @ Chargers: Loss

6-10


And you are flat out bat shit crazy if you think that Smith is "a little better than an Orton type, maybe."

Smith was top three in the league last year in completion percentage, QB rating and yards per attempt. He's athletic, a legit 6'4", 230 lbs., very smart and doesn't give the ball to the defense. Extremely efficient with his passing and will be supported by a system that fits his skill set to a "T" and an extremely good running game. The Chiefs will be very balanced offensively and Smith is a big reason for that.

Fixed the schedules for you.

I don't see the problem with listing Smith as similar to Orton. Over their careers, Orton has the same number of TDs but 26 fewer turnovers, even though he has played 8 fewer games than Smith. Orton's YPA and YPC are both higher than Smith's.

However, I know that you don't like to look at anything Smith did before 2012, so here are their best statistical seasons compared:

Smith: 7.97 YPA, 11.35 YPC, 13 TD, 8 turnovers
Orton: 7.34 YPA, 12.47 YPC, 20 TD, 10 turnovers

[Mav]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Fixed the schedules for you.

I don't see the problem with listing Smith as similar to Orton. Over their careers, Orton has the same number of TDs but 26 fewer turnovers, even though he has played 8 fewer games than Smith. Orton's YPA and YPC are both higher than Smith's.

However, I know that you don't like to look at anything Smith did before 2012, so here are their best statistical seasons compared:

Smith: 7.97 YPA, 11.35 YPC, 13 TD, 8 turnovers
Orton: 7.34 YPA, 12.47 YPC, 20 TD, 10 turnovers

The Chiefs aren't losing week one to Jacksonville. Ill put my house on that. No Blackmon, and they don't know who their qb is.......

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

The Chiefs aren't losing week one to Jacksonville. Ill put my house on that. No Blackmon, and they don't know who their qb is.......

Florida in early September is miserable. Excepting Oakland's domination in the 70's, AFCW teams are 3-10 in Florida in September, and 2 of those wins came against horrible Tampa Bay teams.

The 13-3 2005 Broncos got destroyed in Miami in the season opener, losing by 24 points. Their other two losses were by 1 and 4 points.

Add to that the first game in a new system for offense and defense, and I don't like KC's chances no matter how good they are and no matter how bad Jacksonville is.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Florida in early September is miserable. Excepting Oakland's domination in the 70's, AFCW teams are 3-10 in Florida in September, and 2 of those wins came against horrible Tampa Bay teams.

The 13-3 2005 Broncos got destroyed in Miami in the season opener, losing by 24 points. Their other two losses were by 1 and 4 points.

Add to that the first game in a new system for offense and defense, and I don't like KC's chances no matter how good they are and no matter how bad Jacksonville is.

The Chiefs have the same defense. They are just attacking more. That's it.

The Jaguars don't have any pass rushers of note that are dangerous in any way. And their secondary is basically full of rookies.

Add no Blackmon and they don't have any scary WR's.

We're winning that one.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The Chiefs have the same defense. They are just attacking more. That's it.

The Jaguars don't have any pass rushers of note that are dangerous in any way. And their secondary is basically full of rookies.

Add no Blackmon and they don't have any scary WR's.

We're winning that one.

I thought you guys were switching to one-gap?

Again, it's not about the talent. If this were in KC, I think you'd win easily.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by milkman

The only playmakers on that list are Charles and Bowe.

The rest are just homeristic fantasy.

God, because you know for sure how Fasano, Kelce, and Avery are going to play in this offense. Alex Smith has a history of meshing well with Tight Ends. He also did very well last year with Kyle Williams who is the same mold as Avery. Your presumptions, are far off base.

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I thought you guys were switching to one-gap?

Again, it's not about the talent. If this were in KC, I think you'd win easily.

I just cant see it. Jax is that bad. They didn't add anything to that offense other than Joeckell, and they are still going with Gabbert, or Henne. There is no reason to think that the Jags, being in Jax, or not, should win this game.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Florida in early September is miserable. Excepting Oakland's domination in the 70's, AFCW teams are 3-10 in Florida in September, and 2 of those wins came against horrible Tampa Bay teams.

The 13-3 2005 Broncos got destroyed in Miami in the season opener, losing by 24 points. Their other two losses were by 1 and 4 points.

Add to that the first game in a new system for offense and defense, and I don't like KC's chances no matter how good they are and no matter how bad Jacksonville is.

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

That was before the all holy was hired tho

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

Tebow is the only Broncos QB to ever win an away game against the Dolphins.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Tebow is the only Broncos QB to ever win an away game against the Dolphins.

3 of the best Chiefs teams ever.

1997 Chiefs 13-3 lost to Dolphins and Jaguars
1995 Chiefs 13-3 lost to Dolphins
1993 Chiefs 11-5 lost to Dolphins, beat Tampa Bay

Its really amazing how shitty they are in Florida.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Chiefs since the merger are 5-17 in games played in Florida. Even during the Marty years, the smart money was to give a loss to the Chiefs when they play in Florida.

That uh, is not a good sign I must admit.