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Old 07-07-2016, 06:51 PM  
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MLB on pace to hit 2nd most HRs in history

This has always been one of my favorite baseball debates so I'm curious what people think about this trend.

Hitters are on pace to hit the second most HRs in history. This is assuming PED testing has improved. That we are past the steroid era. Despite there not being any new expansion team.

So why is this happening? I've always been of the opinion that the impact of steroids has been overblown - an important factor, but not nearly as important as people make it to be. Is it possible that baseball has introduced a juiced ball to jump the ratings? And could that have played a big part in the massive #'s we saw in the steroid era?
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:07 PM   #16
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This has always been one of my favorite baseball debates so I'm curious what people think about this trend.

Hitters are on pace to hit the second most HRs in history. This is assuming PED testing has improved. That we are past the steroid era. Despite there not being any new expansion team.

So why is this happening? I've always been of the opinion that the impact of steroids has been overblown - an important factor, but not nearly as important as people make it to be. Is it possible that baseball has introduced a juiced ball to jump the ratings? And could that have played a big part in the massive #'s we saw in the steroid era?
Steroids do not increase strength...they do not increase hand to eye coordination. They dont help you hit a baseball. You still gotta lift the weights.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:11 PM   #17
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Baseball is dying. Slumping ratings and its youth appeal is disappearing.
Maybe for the Rockies, but it's alive and well in KC.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:22 PM   #18
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Baseball is dying. Slumping ratings and its youth appeal is disappearing.
With the fear of football's lingering and debilitating injuries I disagree adamantly.
Baseball will be America's past time again in the near future
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:26 AM   #19
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With the fear of football's lingering and debilitating injuries I disagree adamantly.
Baseball will be America's past time again in the near future
TheNBA already has that lockeddown when the NFL begins to falter, which it already is starting
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Old 07-08-2016, 08:19 AM   #21
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Old 07-08-2016, 08:44 AM   #22
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Steroids do not increase strength...they do not increase hand to eye coordination. They dont help you hit a baseball. You still gotta lift the weights.
But they do give an advantage vs a person who does the same amount of conditioning. So it is cheating.

But at the same time, most of bat speed is built through the hips and legs which don't benefit as much from PEDs. Steroids will make your swing a tiny bit faster, which in the mlb a few split seconds is a big deal. But I still believe a lot of the steroid Era can be attributed to terrible pitching, hitters friendly strike zones, and hitters ball parks.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:55 PM   #24
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TheNBA already has that lockeddown when the NFL begins to falter, which it already is starting
All the athletes who would play football will be playing baseball. Hence the statement
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:24 PM   #25
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TheNBA already has that lockeddown when the NFL begins to falter, which it already is starting
I don't know where you get that from. I'm not totally sure how you measure it accurately, but most polls show that baseball is still America's 2nd favorite sport by a fair margin. The NFL clearly blows them all away though.
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TheNBA already has that lockeddown when the NFL begins to falter, which it already is starting
Uh, no. NBA does not appeal to a large segment of American student athletes.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:04 PM   #30
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You are wrong.

The numbers aren't there, spots wise.
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