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Old 05-03-2015, 07:09 AM   Topic Starter
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La'el Collins will sign as a free agent
According to Gil Brandt on Sirius/XM radio. He will sign with an NFL team and that means he'll pretty much play at a minimum contract.

Sounds like he's talking with investigators early next week.

Go get him, Dorsey!
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:22 AM   #2
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And here is a link... Florio is saying the same:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-hes-cleared/
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:24 AM   #3
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:25 AM   #4
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Collins has no leverage whatsoever. He has to sign for very cheap per NFL rules.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:32 AM   #5
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:36 AM   #6
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He'll have the leverage of teams bidding on him signing
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:43 AM   #7
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He'll have the leverage of teams bidding on him signing
Not really. Teams won't be bidding on him. I'm sure every team will throw a max rookie contract at him. He'll probably make a decision based on where he can make the most year 1 impact. It will have nothing to do with year 1 money.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:37 AM   #8
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Does the rookie FA system allow money to be thrown at FA rookies? Assuming he didn't do murder things this is a really odd instance of a 1st round guy floating around as a rookie FA.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:41 AM   #9
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Does the rookie FA system allow money to be thrown at FA rookies? Assuming he didn't do murder things this is a really odd instance of a 1st round guy floating around as a rookie FA.
Nope. Maximum undrafted rookie salary (think it's about $400K) and very strict rules about max bonuses.

I'm sure the NFL was trying to avoid situations like this where a player can get paid a shitload of money even if they went undrafted.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:33 PM   #10
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Nope. Maximum undrafted rookie salary (think it's about $400K) and very strict rules about max bonuses.

I'm sure the NFL was trying to avoid situations like this where a player can get paid a shitload of money even if they went undrafted.
Hmm, don't know about this. Collins declared for the draft, he went undrafted. It's not like he was trying to manipulate the system. Yes, he tried to undeclare but the NFL said no. So now he's an undrafted FA. Is there a limit to how much an undrafted FA can make?
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:38 PM   #11
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Hmm, don't know about this. Collins declared for the draft, he went undrafted. It's not like he was trying to manipulate the system. Yes, he tried to undeclare but the NFL said no. So now he's an undrafted FA. Is there a limit to how much an undrafted FA can make?
Yes. There are very strict caps on max base salary and max signing bonus a UDFA can make -- a smart move by the NFL to make sure every player was incentivized to want to be drafted. That's a good thing. There is also a very small cap for how much a team can pay in total for all UDFAs. I'm guessing that was to prevent certain teams for hoarding all UDFAs and forcing teams to be selective and smart about who they bring in.

In other words, La'el Collins is going to make shitty money in his first contract. Really, really shitty. Doesn't matter what team it is. Every offer will look virtually the same so money really doesn't have anything to do with where he goes.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:40 PM   #12
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Yes. There are very strict caps on max base salary and max signing bonus a UDFA can make -- a smart move by the NFL to make sure every player was incentivized to want to be drafted. That's a good thing. There is also a very small cap for how much a team can pay in total for all UDFAs. I'm guessing that was to prevent certain teams for hoarding all UDFAs and forcing teams to be selective and smart about who they bring in.

In other words, La'el Collins is going to make shitty money in his first contract. Really, really shitty. Doesn't matter what team it is. Every offer will look virtually the same so money really doesn't have anything to do with where he goes.
Which is why if he is found innocent it will suck for him that the NFL made him Guilty by association.

Cost him a ton of money.
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Does the rookie FA system allow money to be thrown at FA rookies? Assuming he didn't do murder things this is a really odd instance of a 1st round guy floating around as a rookie FA.
Someone posted the rules regarding the rules for signing UDFAs,

But teams are very limited in what they can offer financially, so teams will not be able to outbid one another.
So it will come down to who he wants to play for.
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Someone posted the rules regarding the rules for signing UDFAs,

But teams are very limited in what they can offer financially, so teams will not be able to outbid one another.
So it will come down to who he wants to play for.
Our attractiveness as an organization vs. our attractiveness in availability of Oline spots. I wonder if Dorsey would even make the attempt.
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Someone posted the rules regarding the rules for signing UDFAs,

But teams are very limited in what they can offer financially, so teams will not be able to outbid one another.
So it will come down to who he wants to play for.
Ya, I posted them.
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