frickin dog question

[seclark]

so, the son and his wife went to some kind of money managing class. they came up with a plan on how to get out of debt and build a new house(i'm 57 and never been out of debt). anyway, the main part of the plan is for them and the 3 grandkids to move in w/the wife and i. actually, no biggie...grandkids usually stay w/us every weekend, and we know they're going to get older and not want to come out as much. life.

so, they sell their house and move in w/us 2 weeks ago. everything seems to be working fine, except the 3 dogs they brought w/them. used to living in a fenced in yard and sleeping in the house. i've got 30 acres for them to run wherever they want, but they seem to be happiest laying on the wifes ****in patio furniture. holler, scream, shake a stupid can w/rocks in it(dumbest idea of all), to no avail. the wife went to town and bought some spray shit for $40 and sprayed it all over the furniture saturday. yesterday morning...yep, they're laying on the patio furniture. she sprayed it again, but i know they'll be back.

so...surely some of you guys/gals have experienced this before and have a solution besides antifreeze and/or bullets? they're pretty cool dogs, really, but the wife is driving me ****in nuts over this.

suggestions?
tia
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

How did they get the beagle to shut the **** up?

Good God, those things are ****ing annoying. Takes me back to my horror days of living in an apartment complex where the person directly below me had a first floor apartment and TWO of those things. She'd put them outside on a leash and go run errands, and of course they'd do nothing but ****ing bay at shit. Hope you enjoyed the sound of a goose dying from chocking to death on a baby donkey, because that's exactly what they sounded like.

It was a couple months before the landlord did ****ing anything about it. Either that, or somebody shot those damn dogs. I hope the latter is what occurred.

We had a pair of beagles once. One was so bad I got a shock bark collar. Stupid ****er would still bark like crazy it just was different.

Ruff ruff roarerereaerreffff. Ruff ruff roarereaerreffff. Non stop still

They went somewhere else REAL quick.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

We had a pair of beagles once. One was so bad I got a shock bark collar. Stupid ****er would still bark like crazy it just was different.

Ruff ruff roarerereaerreffff. Ruff ruff roarereaerreffff. Non stop still

They went somewhere else REAL quick.

Hilarious yet sad.

[Pepe Silvia]

If you leave a pit bull puppy alone they will whine and cry so bad, it makes you sad and drives you nuts at the same time.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Hilarious yet sad.

I felt terrible. We found her a new home quick.

[Frosty]

I have my own frickin' dog question.

We have a two year old Aussie that stays home in our yard while my wife and I are at work. She is there from 7 am to about 3:30 Mon - Thurs. Plus, my wife works for a school so is home all summer. So it isn't like the dog is outside all of the time.

We have a half acre lot in a small community out in the country. Our yard is fenced all around with a wire 8' deer fence. Here's the type of fence:



With our last Aussie, she wouldn't leave the yard even if we left the gate open. However, the one we have now has gotten out several times by digging under the fence. Our soil is almost pure sand so it only takes her a few minutes. Part of the problem is that the dumbass neighbors across the road have a couple of dogs that they just let roam loose. Our dog, Sky, wants to play with them so it's motivation for her to dig. Also, one of those dogs from across the road has actually dug under our fence to get in to play with Sky.

I've been trying to figure out what to do with her. I've thought about fencing off the back corner of the lot (pictured above) and making a kennel. I'd put rock or concrete around the fence to keep her from digging under. However, that spot is in full sun all summer long and I don't like restricting her movements as much since Aussies are pretty high energy.

I've also debated about getting another dog so she isn't as bored during the day. She is way more social than our last Aussie was and loves all people and other dogs. I'm just not sure I have the energy to deal with all that getting another pup entails.

Right now, I'm mostly leaning towards an invisible fence type of deal. I would just attach it to the current fence and just bury it at the gate. it wouldn't keep the other dog from digging in but I think if Sky wasn't right on the fence, maybe it wouldn't. Plus, if I catch it in my yard again, it may get a dose of lead poisoning to make it think twice about coming back.

Besides antifreeze, does anyone have a different idea? Anyone with experience with the various invisible fence applications?

here's a picture of the reerun dog.

[listopencil]

You could set up a dog run area. With just a heavy duty cable strung about six feet above ground level. You get a thing like a leash that has something that looks like a pulley on one end and a fastener on the other. Stupid dogs (like mine) can get themselves stuck in it if there is anything at all that they can wrap the leash around within range though.

[FlaChief58]

A dog run with a roof sounds like it would be your best solution. It's not like she would be in it all the time and you would have peace of mind while you're gone

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by listopencil

You could set up a dog run area. With just a heavy duty cable strung about six feet above ground level. You get a thing like a leash that has something that looks like a pulley on one end and a fastener on the other. Stupid dogs (like mine) can get themselves stuck in it if there is anything at all that they can wrap the leash around within range though.

My neighbors did this for their lab and it works great. They have it set up so that there is a cable that runs from a hook on the back of their garage out away from there about 50 ft to another pole that sits just outside the property line fence. They attached a chain leash to that cable so that the dog can run up and down the property and out away from a single pathway. She can't tangle up in anything because there is a building and a fence at the ends of her cable. They put a lean-to type thing off the back of the garage to give her shade.

[Buehler445]

Invisible fence, but bury it 18 inches inside of the fence, so she knows that it is a no go. I have no idea what to tell you about the neighbors dog.

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Invisible fence, but bury it 18 inches inside of the fence, so she knows that it is a no go. I have no idea what to tell you about the neighbors dog.

That looks cool but a pita to set up.

[ChiTown]

sec, sorry I'm late to this thread. Try antifreeze, thank me later.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

sec, sorry I'm late to this thread. Try antifreeze, thank me later.

Is the antifreeze for his dog, the neighbor's dogs, or both?

[patteeu]

Frosty, why not just let your dog run loose like the neighbors?

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by listopencil

You could set up a dog run area. With just a heavy duty cable strung about six feet above ground level. You get a thing like a leash that has something that looks like a pulley on one end and a fastener on the other. Stupid dogs (like mine) can get themselves stuck in it if there is anything at all that they can wrap the leash around within range though.

This is an intriguing idea. I do worry about her getting stuck on something or her really pulling against the leader but I think I could make it work. I'm still leaning towards the invisible fence but this would probably be next if that didn't work.

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Invisible fence, but bury it 18 inches inside of the fence, so she knows that it is a no go. I have no idea what to tell you about the neighbors dog.

I think you can crank up the transmitter on these so that the collar will go off several feet before they get to the wire. I'm dealing with a bum shoulder so I am hoping to not have to do much digging.

Originally Posted by patteeu

Frosty, why not just let your dog run loose like the neighbors?

I think people that let their dogs run loose are self centered assholes that don't care that their dogs are a pain in the ass to their neighbors. Also, around here, dogs that run loose tend to have a short lifespan, between the road and irate neighbors.

Thanks for the ideas everyone. Keep 'em coming!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Invisible fence, but bury it 18 inches inside of the fence, so she knows that it is a no go. I have no idea what to tell you about the neighbors dog.

Not necessary.

Virtually all electronic fences have a 'swath'. The line essentially puts out a signal for X inches on either side depending on how you have it set up. So you can put it right at the fence line and set it to a 36 inch swath and you'll end up getting 18 inches on either side. Usually the first 3-5 inches of that zone will be a 'beep' zone where the collar gives a quick chirp and if they get inside it, that's when the juice starts. If there's already a fence there, that dogs not going to stand there getting the juice while it digs, especially not if you ramp up the intensity.

Mine will occasionally break ours just to jump in the lake but it's a rare occurrence. With no fence, they can get a running leap, take a second of zap and then break the charge zone. So you just have to turn it up enough to make them REALLY not want to take that second of zap. Far more often they hear that chirp and know to step back. Frankly, if I'm not fishing or leaving the property, I don't bother to put their collars on them because they do not **** around with that charge anymore. But even that wouldn't be an issue here as there's an actual physical barrier as well.

The problem with the invisible fence will be cost. You're going to be a few thousand into it for a quality setup, IMO. And on extremely rare occasions (you have to have a comically smart dog for this one), they'll walk the line listening for the beep, then lay down near it, let it beep until the charge dies and then get to digging. I could see that being an issue if your dog has all day to figure it out. I'd suggest you just never let the collar die so they never learn that it's an option. Like I said - you have to have a damn smart dog but Aussies are known for that kind of lunacy.