SI : Chiefs have a problem and his name is Dwayne Bowe

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

you have it all figured out, Forrest.



now run, Forrest ... RUN!!!!

**** off, pest.

[O.city]

I think this is a big part of Andy trying/saying he wants to get Alex more aggressive. A lot oft imes, they're having Bowe run more downfield routes, but Alex has already decided to throw it elsewhere.

He's going to have to trust the ol, hold the ball a bit longer, and take some shots down field to Bowe.

[Ragged Robin]

It's a work in progress. All new offenses take a while before they can gel. We're only a quarter of the season in. We'll see more big plays once Fasano gets back into the lineup and the offense settles in.

[Ace Gunner]

Was Bowe "wide open" when Smiff hit him last week for the TD? no Laz.

There is something else dictating this offense. I submit it is coach Reid.

[Red Dawg]

UNDEFEATED! WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT WR IS GETTING THE BALL! Did Brady, Ben or Eli have some super stud they relied on or did they get the ball to the open man? Alex and Bowe are doing just fine.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

UNDEFEATED! WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT WR IS GETTING THE BALL! Did Brady, Ben or Eli have some super stud they relied on or did they get the ball to the open man? Alex and Bowe are doing just fine.

but you dontunderstand!!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

but you dontunderstand!!

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

UNDEFEATED! WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT WR IS GETTING THE BALL! Did Brady, Ben or Eli have some super stud they relied on or did they get the ball to the open man? Alex and Bowe are doing just fine.

Because at some point we will lose a game and after that we'll lose a playoff game and one of the biggest reasons will be because we aren't using our offensive weapons effectively.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

UNDEFEATED! 9-0! WHO GIVES A SHIT HOW WE'RE DOING IT! WE'RE OUTSCORING EVERYBODY NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE!

Originally Posted by cdcox

Because at some point we will lose a game and after that we'll lose a playoff game and one of the biggest reasons will be because our defense is a rancid bag of poo.

2003 called. They want their writing on the wall back.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Because at some point we will lose a game and after that we'll lose a playoff game and one of the biggest reasons will be because we aren't using our offensive weapons effectively.

This is true, but its a bit much to ask even Reid to have ironed out every issue, have the offense running at maximum efficiency, and have figured out exactly how to utilize every weapon he has after 5 games with an entirely new roster.
I think it has looked very promising, all things considered, and expect improvement that will, in fact, be needed if we want to beat the big dogs.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

This is true, but its a bit much to ask even Reid to have ironed out every issue, have the offense running at maximum efficiency, and have figured out exactly how to utilize every weapon he has after 5 games with an entirely new roster.
I think it has looked very promising, all things considered, and expect improvement that will, in fact, be needed if we want to beat the big dogs.

I don't know. The defense has seen a huge change and it hasn't slowed progress. I know it typically takes more time for offenses to gel, especially with timing in this type of system, but the defensive playbook is so big and intricate at this point, I have to put them on a level playing field.

Right now, and I know I'll get shit for this, but I dislike Andy Reid's offense. From the blocking scheme change, to the misuse of talent(under utilizing Bowe and Hemingway), to the conservative nature of the QB. I know Reid can't control Smith, and wants him to be more aggressive, but it's his man. Also not a fan of throwing, to no avail, on third and short, or running Charles up the middle for no gain time and time, and time again.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I don't know. The defense has seen a huge change and it hasn't slowed progress. I know it typically takes more time for offenses to gel, especially with timing in this type of system, but the defensive playbook is so big and intricate at this point, I have to put them on a level playing field.

Right now, and I know I'll get shit for this, but I dislike Andy Reid's offense. From the blocking scheme change, to the misuse of talent(under utilizing Bowe and Hemingway), to the conservative nature of the QB. I know Reid can't control Smith, and wants him to be more aggressive, but it's his man. Also not a fan of throwing, to no avail, on third and short, or running Charles up the middle for no gain time and time, and time again.

I thought the "idea" was to get Charles in to space?

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I don't know. The defense has seen a huge change and it hasn't slowed progress. I know it typically takes more time for offenses to gel, especially with timing in this type of system, but the defensive playbook is so big and intricate at this point, I have to put them on a level playing field.

Right now, and I know I'll get shit for this, but I dislike Andy Reid's offense. From the blocking scheme change, to the misuse of talent(under utilizing Bowe and Hemingway), to the conservative nature of the QB. I know Reid can't control Smith, and wants him to be more aggressive, but it's his man. Also not a fan of throwing, to no avail, on third and short, or running Charles up the middle for no gain time and time, and time again.

Defenses are typically way ahead of offenses early in the season.

I too have had issues with a lot of the play calling, but on 3rd and short, I dont have a problem with trying to run up the middle for the 1st. It has been a problem but that is why Im not complaining.
We need to improve our short yardage run game. Its a simple yet crucial 3rd down situation that needs improvement, which hopefully will come around.
I have no bones with Ried over trying to line up and smash out a 1st behind Sherman, who is a beast.
Encouraged by it actually, as Reid is notorious for throwing too much on 3rd and short, and was worried that he would do that too often the way he did in Philly.
Also encouraged by the slow, yet existent increase in Reids influence in getting Smith to go down field. Hopefully that continues, and becomes more frequent
Averys speed has to be accounted for now, and I honestly have been bothered by Reids lack of drags and short crossing patterns to Bowe, who is GREAT at getting YAC on those types of plays. He has instead been using Avery for those when Avery needs to be stretching the field vertically, and opening those designed short crosses up for Bowe.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Chiefs have a problem and his name is NOT Bowe.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

The Chiefs have a problem and his name is NOT Bowe.

Yeah...

Their problem is that they are 5-0.

It sucks, I know, but what the hell are you to do?

Personally, who gives a rat's ass about who is getting the ball. The game isn't about Dwayne Bowe's fantasy numbers, it's about getting enough wins to get to the playoffs which gives you the possibility, a chance at hoisting the Lombardi at the very end. Period. End of story. And, straight up, a single wide receiver isn't going to carry a team through the playoffs and win a team a Super Bowl. Ever. So I would suggest not getting your panties in a tight knot about the number of receptions Bowe has to date. They are 5-0 in a new offense with a new QB behind an offensive line that has three new guys starting on it (Allen, Hudson, Fisher), a new fullback, an all new receiving corps other than Bowe & McCluster, etc., etc., etc.

I'm pretty freakin' giddy about the possibilities of what this team can/will do once everyone is on the same page - both offensively and defensively. And I don't expect that to happen until next season to be honest.

However, while we are on the subject, from my observations, Bowe is not separating very well right now and has been a bit slow coming off in his breaks. He's also dropped some passes he should have caught and he's blown some routes. While Smith could be looking in his direction a bit more, Bowe himself hasn't helped his QB have a ton of confidence in him either.

However, he's blocking exceptionally well and he's getting the opposing defenses #1 CB. That's opening up the offense which shows as it's usually seven or eight guys that have been targeted by Smith throughout the game. That significantly helps the rest of the offense.

Bottom line - about whether or not Bowe has 15 receptions per game. It's irrelevant, especially in light of the fact that they TEAM is 5-0 when just a year ago Bowe was getting a ton of looks and we were one of, if not the, worst offensive team in NFL history and were losing games by enormous double digit margins.