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Old 01-05-2013, 10:02 AM   #1
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That was actually one of Reid's downfall in Philly. He was always known to be a head coach that concentrated on the draft but the last few years he dived into the FA market and it didn't work.

Sure there were other issues (death of Johnson, never getting a defensive staff settled afterwards, lack of cohesion in the front office after Heckert left and his family personal issues).

Who knows if Reid will work but at the same time one gets the feeling he stayed in Philly for to long and started going against his original blue print in the end. He gets a new start staff wise and gets to go back to his original blue print again.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:07 AM   #2
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That was actually one of Reid's downfall in Philly. He was always known to be a head coach that concentrated on the draft but the last few years he dived into the FA market and it didn't work.

Sure there were other issues (death of Johnson, never getting a defensive staff settled afterwards, lack of cohesion in the front office after Heckert left and his family personal issues).

Who knows if Reid will work but at the same time one gets the feeling he stayed in Philly for to long and started going against his original blue print in the end. He gets a new start staff wise and gets to go back to his original blue print again.
What happened to Reid in philly parallels a LOT of long tenured coaches. Once the 'superbowl or bust' pressure is on after 8 or more years things change.

The coach's core has aged and he has to rebuild, but the fans will not tolerate a rebuild with the same coach. They just won't. Instead he starts trying to 'retool' by grabbing any talent, regardless of baggage, just to fill holes left by his aging stars.

It happened to Marty, and it happened to Fisher. Well, actually Fisher WAS allowed to rebuild... it just failed.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:09 AM   #3
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What happened to Reid in philly parallels a LOT of long tenured coaches. Once the 'superbowl or bust' pressure is on after 8 or more years things change.

The coach's core has aged and he has to rebuild, but the fans will not tolerate a rebuild with the same coach. They just won't. Instead he starts trying to 'retool' by grabbing any talent, regardless of baggage, just to fill holes left by his aging stars.

It happened to Marty, and it happened to Fisher. Well, actually Fisher WAS allowed to rebuild... it just failed.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:08 AM   #4
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That was actually one of Reid's downfall in Philly. He was always known to be a head coach that concentrated on the draft but the last few years he dived into the FA market and it didn't work.

Sure there were other issues (death of Johnson, never getting a defensive staff settled afterwards, lack of cohesion in the front office after Heckert left and his family personal issues).

Who knows if Reid will work but at the same time one gets the feeling he stayed in Philly for to long and started going against his original blue print in the end. He gets a new start staff wise and gets to go back to his original blue print again.
14 years. Comfort. Myopia.

He gave Juan Castillo the DC job because Castillo wanted to be a coordinator and Andy wanted to do him a favor.

Was it a bad decision? Absolutely.

But it's a decision you make in year 11 or 12 of your tenure, not year 1.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:07 AM   #5
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Who did you want milkman? That isn't a question of disagreement but just curious who you wanted?
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:08 AM   #6
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Who did you want milkman? That isn't a question of disagreement but just curious who you wanted?
I wanted Kelly but think Reid was probably my 2nd choice.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:14 AM   #7
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Who did you want milkman? That isn't a question of disagreement but just curious who you wanted?
I've struggled with this, since the Clark Hunt really limited the choices with the criteria that established.

Before the offseason started, David Shaw was my top choice.

After Hunt described what he was looking for in a HC, Bill Cowher and Brian Billick would have been far more preferable.

And thinking outside the box, I would have looked in the direction of the CFL and talked to Marc Trestman.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:15 AM   #8
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I've struggled with this, since the Clark Hunt really limited the choices with the criteria that established.

Before the offseason started, David Shaw was my top choice.

After Hunt described what he was looking for in a HC, Bill Cowher and Brian Billick would have been far more preferable.

And thinking outside the box, I would have looked in the direction of the CFL and talked to Marc Trestman.
You'd really take Cowher over Reid? Are you feeling OK?
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:32 AM   #9
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You'd really take Cowher over Reid? Are you feeling OK?
Reid is an offensive version of the same coach, but with 1 less superbowl ring.
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Reid is an offensive version of the same coach, but with 1 less superbowl ring.
And that one less Super Bowl ring makes him all the more palatable over Cowher. Cowher doesn't even want to coach, let alone have a desire to win a championship.
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I've struggled with this, since the Clark Hunt really limited the choices with the criteria that established.

Before the offseason started, David Shaw was my top choice.

After Hunt described what he was looking for in a HC, Bill Cowher and Brian Billick would have been far more preferable.

And thinking outside the box, I would have looked in the direction of the CFL and talked to Marc Trestman.
I agree after doing my own research after you brought his name up. Reid was in my top 5 so I am not disappointed. Clark made a statement and I like it.
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Brian Billick would have been more preferable?

How?

Brian Billick needs exceptional talent to win. He needs all world players to win. Cunningham was fantastic in Minnesota, he had a stud running back, 2 unreal WRs and a stud slot in Jake Reed.

When he went to Baltimore, he had the greatest defense I've ever seen.

There's also a reason the guy hasn't sniffed a HC job since he was let go from Baltimore over 5 years ago.
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Brian Billick would have been more preferable?

How?

Brian Billick needs exceptional talent to win. He needs all world players to win. Cunningham was fantastic in Minnesota, he had a stud running back, 2 unreal WRs and a stud slot in Jake Reed.

When he went to Baltimore, he had the greatest defense I've ever seen.

There's also a reason the guy hasn't sniffed a HC job since he was let go from Baltimore over 5 years ago.
Brian billick won because he had the greatest D of all time! He sucks no thanks. That ass clown athan kept pushing for him
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