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Old 06-11-2018, 09:45 AM  
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CBS/YouGov poll: America HATES immigration

Just about the 84,000th poll over the years stating the obvious. But get this: even blacks and Hispanics aren't wild about it either. Maybe TanMan will get around to this issue someday.


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New CBS/YouGov poll:
Every race, age, and sex believe immigration has had a more negative impact on their community than positive.
Whites: 58% neg./ 15% pos.
Blacks: 45% neg./ 17% pos
Hispanics: 44% neg./ 28% pos
Other: 51% neg/ 21% pos


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Old 06-13-2018, 07:26 PM   #76
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If I had my way - every returning Vet would be hired instantly by the Border Patrol to begin rounding up these assholes and transporting them BACK across the border. No "sending them back to their home country" crap. Drop them off at the border and send their asses packing.

Then, while doing this, those same ICE people would begin doing raids on businesses that employ Juan and his brethren. First offense? $50,000 per illegal working there. Second offense? $100,000 for each illegal working there. Third offense? Forfeiture of the business and all it's assets to the federal government.

Illegals would be gone from here in a year.

Never happen.
That bolded statement is tyranny. Absolute tyranny.

Your plan is not practical. At all.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:33 PM   #77
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Yes, and smart people knew that was impractical.

I'm sorry you thought that was something he could even accomplish. You must be disappointed that you actually thought we'd build a wall and mexico would pay for it.

I have some land up in alaska...
Ha ha, high five bro!

Except, here's where I help you again. Don was given multiple chances to fund his wall as part of Omnibus:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...all-offer.html
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:19 AM   #78
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Melania Trump should be deported... her father was in the League of Communists in Slovenia, a radical far left group.
What about Malia and Sasha? Do we deport them too?
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:12 AM   #79
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If I had my way - every returning Vet would be hired instantly by the Border Patrol to begin rounding up these assholes and transporting them BACK across the border. No "sending them back to their home country" crap. Drop them off at the border and send their asses packing.

Then, while doing this, those same ICE people would begin doing raids on businesses that employ Juan and his brethren. First offense? $50,000 per illegal working there. Second offense? $100,000 for each illegal working there. Third offense? Forfeiture of the business and all it's assets to the federal government.

Illegals would be gone from here in a year.

Never happen.
I don't think you realize what you're asking for here. That would destroy our economy. It's not just owners of these businesses. It's the supply chain. They raided a ton of illegals in Alabama. Crops rotted in the ground, food prices skyrocketed, and everyone from groceries to restaurants to hotels got annihilated. Make it national, now you're talking about major food manufacturers, fast food chains, etc.... That's just 1 industry. This is a huge tax on the middle class. You'll be paying a lot more $ for the food you normally eat.

And that's not even getting into the hundreds of millions it would cost to physically deport these people.

I'd much rather fix the system first, then carry out enforcement. Give businesses a window to legalize labor with expanded use of work visas. If they keep breaking the rules after that, then lay the hammer down. There's no reason to introduce billions in unnecessary costs to prove a point. We can do this while minimizing disruption.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:37 AM   #81
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Mmright. These businesses have been hiring workers at below market wages with minimal benefits. You do realize the cost of replacing tens of millions of workers at significantly higher wages right? I'm sure you can do the math. Now consider the supply chain implications if dairy prices go up. That increases the price of milk... Then cheese... Then Velveeta... Then pizza... Then digiornos chain that sells pizza... Then the hotel that buys frozen pizza in bulk. Etc.... That is a ginormous business tax
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:11 AM   #82
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We've been thru this dozens of times. It really never sinks in with you so it's pointless. If the market won't pay for a product then it isnt viable. A 5th grader knows this.
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:38 AM   #83
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We've been thru this dozens of times. It really never sinks in with you so it's pointless. If the market won't pay for a product then it isnt viable. A 5th grader knows this.
I didn't realize it was that easy. Thanks for the education. And what exactly do you think happens when hundreds of products become unviable at the same exact time?
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I didn't realize it was that easy. Thanks for the education. And what exactly do you think happens when hundreds of products become unviable at the same exact time?
Happens every day. It's called capitalism. Free market. "Bitch slapped by the invisible hand"


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Its not about laziness. There are just jobs Americans don't want. Farm jobs are often hard manual labor that requires you to live in the middle of nowhere. Infrastructure and construction work is seasonal and project based... It's not stable or consistent. Immigrants are often willing to be continuous ad hoc labor as a full time career. Americans often don't want to do that unless it's unionized to guarantee them steady income and work. Finally, labor specialization is not easy. Construction and IT projects often require extremely specific labor that isn't available in that market. These arent skills you can teach in a few months. This is often mid to high skill labor that can't be trained or educated on overnight. We need better rigor to make sure we pull from this labor as needed the legal way. But there are many instances where the labor is extremely useful. We've seen this happen several times. ICE over deport and crops rot in the ground. In other instances, American workers were incentivized to do this labor and were either unreliable or inconsistent. Because these are often jobs nobody wants to do.
The bolded is a valid point. The rest is just a class in excuses 101. I spent my summers growing up on a farm, I know first hand how hard the work is. I also know I lived through it. As far as being "incentivized", I have said many times, cut everybody working age that is not physically handicapped off the government titty. When they get hungry, I bet them jobs start looking pretty dang attractive to Americans who need to be "incentivized".
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Indeed. That was one of the major tenants of the fascist left. "They do the work that Americans WON'T do!" It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.

Get these lazy assed kids away from their video games and put their asses to work.
The sad part is, it's not only kids, one could almost understand kids being lazy. I knew a guy in his early 40's that got welfare because he couldn't control his anger. Seriously, that was the reason. What a crock! Of course he's dead now, I guess sitting/laying on your couch drugging up 24/7 is kinda tough on a body, who knew

Get this crap. We have a guy down at work that has an active FMLA for anxiety...... FROM HIS DENTIST!! I shit you not. At least he has a job sometimes anyway. Well, until his teeth make him anxious anyway.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:02 PM   #87
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That bolded statement is tyranny. Absolute tyranny.

Your plan is not practical. At all.

Actually it IS practical and has been a Federal Law for many years. It would take a mere EO to allow business seizure

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal...illegal-aliens


A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:

assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment,
encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.

Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an alien for a fee, knowing the alien is unauthorized to work in the United States.1 It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an alien knowing that the alien is unauthorized to work.2 Employers may give preference in recruitment and hiring to a U.S. citizen over an alien with work authorization only where the U.S. citizen is equally or better qualified.3

It is unlawful to hire an individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements.4 Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with 3 days advance notice, they must be made available for inspection.

Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home.5Day laborers or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law.6

An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the alien labor.7 The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements.8

If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.9

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts.10 Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer, that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer’s work force.11 Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual’s accent or foreign appearance. Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien workforce of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.12

It is illegal for non-profit and religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist aliens.13Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment.14

It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to 5 years.15

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law.16 Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally.17 The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally, but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien’s illegal employment.18 Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. 19

It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien’s entry or residence is in violation of the law.20 This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that “encouraging” includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious “errors”.21 The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities “without delay” upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to 20 years imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death “of any person,” the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. 22 Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored.23 A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the alien smuggled qualifies as a “victim” under the Victim and Witness Protection Act.24

Conspiracy to commit the crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years imprisonment.25

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third party complaints that have “a reasonable probability of validity.”26

Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.27

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is “no extant federal limitation” on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws.28

Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous or erratic behavior, dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship, and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient.29 Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer’s consent to enter work places or residences.30

Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.31

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).32 The “pattern of racketeering” activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO “enterprise” can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include non-profit associations.

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or social security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or social security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions.33

U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than 3 employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice.34

In addition to the federal statutes summarized above, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

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Old 06-14-2018, 12:17 PM   #88
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I don't think you realize what you're asking for here. That would destroy our economy. It's not just owners of these businesses. It's the supply chain. They raided a ton of illegals in Alabama. Crops rotted in the ground, food prices skyrocketed, and everyone from groceries to restaurants to hotels got annihilated. Make it national, now you're talking about major food manufacturers, fast food chains, etc.... That's just 1 industry. This is a huge tax on the middle class. You'll be paying a lot more $ for the food you normally eat.

And that's not even getting into the hundreds of millions it would cost to physically deport these people.

I'd much rather fix the system first, then carry out enforcement. Give businesses a window to legalize labor with expanded use of work visas. If they keep breaking the rules after that, then lay the hammer down. There's no reason to introduce billions in unnecessary costs to prove a point. We can do this while minimizing disruption.
That is the point. The "system" is NOT broken. It is just never ENFORCED. You simply can not NOT follow the law for 50 years, allow 20-30 million illegals into the country and then put forth the idea that the "system" is broken.

There has always been a rather "stern" set of laws on the books that point out, in great detail, what MUST be done to those coming into the country illegally.

However, someone, somewhere along the line, decided that "we just won't enforce those laws"….so much for the "nation of laws" thing that has been beaten into our heads since we were children. It is a lie. Break the laws when it benefits you or your "buddies" - in this case - Business.
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Nice use of buzzwords while having no concept of how the business world works.

So tell me when dairy prices skyrocket. Demand drops. farmers lose jobs, what will they do next? Build websites? Change their business model to milk chickens? What about the cheese manufacturer that has to scale back production. sell unused cheese making equipment to a cereal manufacturer? What about the company that has to divest in cheese and dairy because it's no longer profitable? They'll have to pay out severance, close a factory, redeploy assets to build a new factory and recruit new talent. What about sbarro, cheesecake factory, Ben and Jerry's ice cream?

OH right, invisible hand. When your markey has been unfree for as long as it has, you can't just rip the bandaid off. What kind of ridiculous candyland world do you live in where you think all these businesses don't have significant capital invested in these inputs?
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:41 PM   #90
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That is the point. The "system" is NOT broken. It is just never ENFORCED. You simply can not NOT follow the law for 50 years, allow 20-30 million illegals into the country and then put forth the idea that the "system" is broken.

There has always been a rather "stern" set of laws on the books that point out, in great detail, what MUST be done to those coming into the country illegally.

However, someone, somewhere along the line, decided that "we just won't enforce those laws"….so much for the "nation of laws" thing that has been beaten into our heads since we were children. It is a lie. Break the laws when it benefits you or your "buddies" - in this case - Business.
I don't oppose the idea of doing that after you fix the borders and after you've given businesses a chance to legalize their labor. It's not practical to do this before then. It is an enormous business and consumer tax that can be avoided by taking a more patient, deliberate route to legalizing the right kind of labor. Not even to mention why pay hundreds of millions to deport when you can instead collect hundreds of millions?
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