Offense/Defense (Philosophy based)

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Actually, the Chiefs are one of the few teams that rarely switch to an over/under in their base front. Additionally, fire-zone concepts are not typically used. When Crennel does decide to send more than 4, we are typically playing man-coverage.

Everything else though I agree with.

Honest question...

How in the blue hell did a girl your age ever become so football intelligent?

Its been bugging the shit out of me for days, i've never seen a girl with such informed takes.

You need to apply for a pr job with some college or pro team.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by scott free

Honest question...

How in the blue hell did a girl your age ever become so football intelligent?

Its been bugging the shit out of me for days, i've never seen a girl with such informed takes.

You need to apply for a pr job with some college or pro team.

WTF. Why just PR? You're a sexist asshole. You don't think personnel would be a good fit?

This kind of close-minded thinking is exactly why the Chiefs suck.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Sorter

WTF. Why just PR? You're a sexist asshole. You don't think personnel would be a good fit?

This kind of close-minded thinking is exactly why the Chiefs suck.

I Honestly Swear on my Grandfather, that exact thought hit my mind about 1 minute after that post.

My bad, you go!

[chiefzilla1501]

I know I'm going to get destroyed for this, but I want to run an old-school Whisenhunt offense. It's basically run-heavy, dink and dunk, but take a lot of shots downfield. I think it's a great system to develop a young pocket QB. In 2-3 years, I then want to open that offense up. Lots of young guys developed in this kind of system. Matt Ryan, Flacco, Big Ben, Brady, Eli... they didn't begin as pass-first offenses. Then open up the offense in 2-3 years when the QB is settled.

On defense, it has to be a 1-gap. I'd love to extend Dorsey a year and see if he can adapt. I'd cut Tyson Jackson as he's not 1-gap material. I still like Gus Bradley/Pete Carroll's "under" scheme in Seattle and think it would be a pretty easy transition. Also really like Horton's 3-4 in Arizona. And anybody who thinks Poe should move away from NT is crazy. Poe's value is that he could one day be a nose tackle you never have to take off the field. That's a great player to have in a world where your NTs are 2-down guys who get destroyed when offenses go no-huddle.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I know I'm going to get destroyed for this, but I want to run an old-school Whisenhunt offense. It's basically run-heavy, dink and dunk, but take a lot of shots downfield. I think it's a great system to develop a young pocket QB. In 2-3 years, I then want to open that offense up. Lots of young guys developed in this kind of system. Matt Ryan, Flacco, Big Ben, Brady, Eli... they didn't begin as pass-first offenses. Then open up the offense in 2-3 years when the QB is settled.

On defense, it has to be a 1-gap. I'd love to extend Dorsey a year and see if he can adapt. I'd cut Tyson Jackson as he's not 1-gap material. I still like Gus Bradley/Pete Carroll's "under" scheme in Seattle and think it would be a pretty easy transition. Also really like Horton's 3-4 in Arizona. And anybody who thinks Poe should move away from NT is crazy. Poe's value is that he could one day be a nose tackle you never have to take off the field. That's a great player to have in a world where your NTs are 2-down guys who get destroyed when offenses go no-huddle.

Dorsey ain't going to cut it in a 3-4.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dorsey ain't going to cut it in a 3-4.

He hasn't been trained to be a pass rusher. He needs to be coached up big time on technique. But the reason he was highly regarded in college was his explosion off the line of scrimmage. Let's get him back to what he's good at. I don't think he'll be a star, but he could be a solid enough starter. Jackson's the guy I'm convinced is a pure 2-gap player.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He hasn't been trained to be a pass rusher. He needs to be coached up big time on technique. But the reason he was highly regarded in college was his explosion off the line of scrimmage. Let's get him back to what he's good at. I don't think he'll be a star, but he could be a solid enough starter. Jackson's the guy I'm convinced is a pure 2-gap player.

Dorsey played quite a few snaps in our sub package, which has 2 DL playing a shaded 1 and a 3-tech. In a Phillips 1-gap, 1 DE typically plays the 5 or 4 tech, with a shaded NT and a DE playing the 3-tech.

Dorsey has gotten several snaps playing a relevant technique and didn't ever display on a consistent basis that he can penetrate and provide an interior pass rush.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He hasn't been trained to be a pass rusher. He needs to be coached up big time on technique. But the reason he was highly regarded in college was his explosion off the line of scrimmage. Let's get him back to what he's good at. I don't think he'll be a star, but he could be a solid enough starter. Jackson's the guy I'm convinced is a pure 2-gap player.

Dorsey is not a 3-4 DE, I don't care how much coaching you give him. It's not his game. Joe Phillips was the last 3-4 RDE we had prior to Dorsey, IIRC. He was 6-5, 317. Glen Dorsey is 6-1, 297.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'd love to extend Dorsey a year and see if he can adapt.

Dorsey as displayed throughout his career that he can't provide a pass rush on sub packages in the 3-tech or in a shaded 1. He has played both at different times throughout his tenure here. I don't think he needs to stay.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Dorsey as displayed throughout his career that he can't provide a pass rush on sub packages in the 3-tech or in a shaded 1. He has played both at different times throughout his tenure here. I don't think he needs to stay.

I trust that. I just don't know that he's been coached it in the way he should. He has been trained primarily to play 2-gap in a read-and-react way. I don't know that he's been trained proper 1-gap attacking technique. I don't know if he can do it. I'd just like to give him a year where this is all that he does.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I trust that. I just don't know that he's been coached it in the way he should. He has been trained primarily to play 2-gap in a read-and-react way. I don't know that he's been trained proper 1-gap attacking technique. I don't know if he can do it. I'd just like to give him a year where this is all that he does.

The technique for a 1-gap DE playing the 3-tech is the same as our 3-tech in our sub package. Stunts can provide some variance, but as far as movement,body position, leverage, hand-fighting skills they are relevant. Additionally, Dorsey played the 3-tech his first year here exclusively, IIRC.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by scott free

I Honestly Swear on my Grandfather, that exact thought hit my mind about 1 minute after that post.

My bad, you go!

I seriously thought he was a girl for the first couple of weeks I was here. It's the gifs. I mean yesterday he posted James Vanderbeak and Tom Cruise gifs. What are you supposed to think?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

I seriously thought he was a girl for the first couple of weeks I was here. It's the gifs. I mean yesterday he posted James Vanderbeak and Tom Cruise gifs. What are you supposed to think?

That you are an idiot that can't understand what he reads...
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by scott free

Honest question...

How in the blue hell did a girl your age ever become so football intelligent?

Its been bugging the shit out of me for days, i've never seen a girl with such informed takes.

You need to apply for a pr job with some college or pro team.

her dad coached the titans before denzel
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