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Old 03-07-2024, 02:17 PM  
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I Hit A Bald Eagle With My Truck

Not something you see every day. Driving in to work and bald eagle swoops down to get some road kill. This eagle and another had been fighting with a few crows. Problem was he went to get it when I was way too close to him. He tried to fly away but there was just no way he could get away in time.
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:02 PM   #91
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:06 PM   #92
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He does live in Alaska. Last thing you want to do is to be slamming on the brakes on them roads.
Are we sure he was on a road? He may have been driving across a frozen lake or pushing along a forest caribou trail.
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:48 PM   #94
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He does live in Alaska. Last thing you want to do is to be slamming on the brakes on them roads.
I would have tried.
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Old 03-07-2024, 09:46 PM   #96
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Old 03-07-2024, 09:54 PM   #97
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the law doesn't technically allow for accidents. It specifies only the taking or killing as an absolute. She was reported because she had kept the feathers and someone ratted her out.
I'm reminded of the guys in Kansas who shot a mountain lion during a pheasant hunt.

The killing was legal due to self-defense, but they decided to take a paw as a souvenir and not report the incident.

Same issue with roadkill deer. Lots of illegal heads were just cut off a roadkill and not reported.
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Old 03-08-2024, 01:43 AM   #99
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Just to answer a few points.

Otter is correct. We have a LOT of bald eagles here. They were originally put on the endangered species list because of DDT. DDT accumulates in tissues and fish would eat bugs exposed to DDT and eagles eat the fish and it created problems. With the banning of DDT and strict protection, they are rebounding. But we have a ton of them.

I hit this one on the highway that goes right past the Anchorage dump. For those familiar with the area, it was just past the Hiland Mountain exit.

I've handled cases involving people prosecuted for unlawfully possessing eagle parts. And walrus tusks. And seal hides. And polar bear hides. I'm familiar with the law. There are 2 aspects to the law protecting eagles: criminal and civil. Think of them as the difference between reckless driving and speeding. Reckless driving involves a mental state - recklessness. Speeding does not. If you are facing a speeding ticket, the only question is whether you were speeding, not your excuse or justification.

To be criminally liable, the government would have to prove I knowingly killed this eagle. It was clearly an accident and they cannot do so. If it had been a non-endangered bird, like a turkey, I would have just thrown it into the ditch and filed an insurance claim. Doing so with an eagle, though, could create a ton of issues. I want to avoid the criminal issues. I do face the possibility of a fine. Before I can be fined, though, I am entitled to present a defense. I personally know the USF&W attorney and I've already called him to advise him of this situation.

I figured my choices are as follows: throw the bird off the side of the road, file an insurance claim and hope nobody finds out. Not likely to succeed and I'd be subject to far more scrutiny than I really want. What if they charge me with keeping feathers? I did not but my failure to report at that point looks very, very bad. Or, I can call APD and document that I didn't keep anything and I reported it as quickly as possible. I might (emphasis on might) be fined but I anticipate any fine would be minimal. Further, the fine is essentially insurance that I won't wind up facing worse charges. Does that suck? Yeah but that's life. I figure it's one hell of a story.

The sad thing is that I love this state, in part because of the unique wildlife. Seeing bald eagles, even if it's as common as a seeing a robin in Kansas, still makes my day. I love to see moose and caribou and even when I hunt one, there's grief over death. That grief, though, is mitigated because I know that animal will feed a number of people. This was just death.

In memoriam, I offer this moving tribute to eagles (Language NSFW):

Thanks for all that, but you're not obligated to defend yourself to a bunch of rerunned bundle of stickss around here. Good luck.
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I went to Dutch Harbor once and they were everywhere. They had a sign up that warned people to watch their heads lest they get taloned. It was a temporary sign, so maybe I was there in nesting season or something.
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