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Old 02-10-2020, 09:27 AM  
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Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones

Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:53 AM   #556
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Tag and trade jones
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This is what they are going to do. Internally, the staff does not like Jones nearly as much as most fans do. He's a PIA and constantly tries to get out of practices, etc. Pretty telling that he's nowhere near leadership on that D, nor do the players speak about him very often.

Veach is going to do whatever it takes to find a trade partner.


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Old 02-27-2020, 11:01 AM   #557
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I don't see how he plays on the tag, in terms of cap issues.

So that means he's either signing a long-term deal or getting traded. Eliminates the possibility of him walking away for a comp. pick to a team we don't want him playing for.

Buys us time to work it all out. Huge offseason for the front office.
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:11 AM   #558
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I don't see how he plays on the tag, in terms of cap issues.

So that means he's either signing a long-term deal or getting traded. Eliminates the possibility of him walking away for a comp. pick to a team we don't want him playing for.

Buys us time to work it all out. Huge offseason for the front office.
yep, tag isn’t an option in all actuality
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:17 AM   #559
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If we trade him somewhere I expect the Raiders to then trade for him with whoever we send him to.
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:19 AM   #560
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This proves absolutely nothing. Everybody knew this was going to happen.
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:19 AM   #561
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:20 AM   #562
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Of course he got tagged. They have to tag him to trade him or sign him without his hitting the open market.
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:21 AM   #563
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If we trade him somewhere I expect the Raiders to then trade for him with whoever we send him to.
When the **** has that EVER happened in the NFL?
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:24 AM   #564
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Lol. No
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:26 AM   #565
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Jones is playing for the Chiefs this season. You keep a guy like that for as long as you can make it work, and we can make it work.
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Jones is playing for the Chiefs this season. You keep a guy like that for as long as you can make it work, and we can make it work.
My understanding is that the tag is not bad for next year (15 million or so which compared to Clark 20+ million). Now some question is whether he will report under the tag. Most of the time it seems that players are willing to hold out or report late in the season then come in on a 1 year tag. Though Cousins sure made the tag work for him but QB's operate on wholly different economic scale.
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Rap sheet literally said that Jones is in the long terms plan. A deal will get done
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