Is the NFL and its refs out to "get us"?

[BigRedChief]

You conspiracy nuts need to stop this crap.The game wasn't fixed. This poor old me routine on here is getting old.



The NFL loves the Chiefs and Mahomes. They are the exact team they want playing in the NFL. GMF is nothing but a Mahomes lovefest every morning. All of the NFL network shows tout Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. They flexed us into two straight weeks on SNF. Its so obvious other teams fans are bitching about the constant Mahomes/Chiefs love fest.But, they are out to get us?

Another one is the NFL doesnt want a small market winning the SB. Are these conspiracy nuts paying attention? Small markets don't matter if your the big dog. Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy, Hello....evidence you can see with your own eyes.

With all this evidence we can see on a daily basis, somehow you get the idea that the NFL wants the Chiefs to lose. That makes no sense. They are not out to "get us". The NFL is promoting the shit out of us on a daily basis. This conspiracy BS is just that, BS.

[Mile High Mania]

Nice post Rain Man... another point worth discussing, there are 7 refs and 22 players on the field. Offenses and defenses run much more complex schemes than before. Rules have growing nuances to them.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-offic...ies-positions/

I think it is increasingly difficult for those 7 guys to pay attention and see everything in this complex, fast paced game. The NFL certainly needs to take greater advantage of technology, willingly admit that there are things the human eye misses and find a way to leverage things like replay better in every play.

Hell, in 10 years there will be multiple IOT devices in the game balls, on the sidelines, in the uniforms with the technological ability to sense and see everything in real-time. Maybe it won't take that long... you'll have the humans relaying what they are told from AI.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 007

This is a flawed poll. Are the refs out to "get us"? No they are not. But to say they don't purposely swing a game a certain way from time to time is intellectually dishonest.

The original intent of the thread and poll was a much narrower point and idea that sprung from a conversation in the All-Star ref thread. It's turn into a thread on the NFL being fixed and the refs being told by the NFL office HQ who will win the game.

Originally Posted by 007

You see it week in and week out in the NFL. Stars get breaks. Shit teams get shit on. Big market gets aided while small market gets ignored.

I agree that "stars" get different and better treatment. But, thats in all sports. A veteran baseball pitcher that has a reputation for control, gets the called strikes on the corner that the rookie doesn't. etc. Thats not a conspiracy, thats human nature.

In the NFL, its a "star" thing, not small market vs. big market.

Originally Posted by 007

I also noticed the Green Bay and Indy comment. How many superbowls have they won in the last 30 years? Yeah, they get shit on too, just not quite as bad.

As I said, its star driven, not big city market driven. We have Mahomes so we are going to get the breaks in the next 10 years, not because he plays for the Chiefs. All sports are "star" driven in 2018. This isn't a NFL alone issue either. If Brady/Bellicheck had been in Clevland, they would have won multiple Super Bowls in that city.

[Mile High Mania]

There's a part of me that wants KC to win the SB this year just to shut a number of you up, but somehow... that would be pointed to as a buyoff for the next 20 years. The rattle thrown into the crib to satisfy the masses.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Nice post Rain Man... another point worth discussing, there are 7 refs and 22 players on the field. Offenses and defenses run much more complex schemes than before. Rules have growing nuances to them.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-offic...ies-positions/

I think it is increasingly difficult for those 7 guys to pay attention and see everything in this complex, fast paced game. The NFL certainly needs to take greater advantage of technology, willingly admit that there are things the human eye misses and find a way to leverage things like replay better in every play.

Hell, in 10 years there will be multiple IOT devices in the game balls, on the sidelines, in the uniforms with the technological ability to sense and see everything in real-time. Maybe it won't take that long... you'll have the humans relaying what they are told from AI.

Yea must’ve been really hard for them to notice the RT moving early over and over again with so much going on. It’s not like they have somebody specifically watching for that kind of shit before the play.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

If Brady/Bellicheck had been in Clevland, they would have won multiple Super Bowls in that city.

Nope.

There would have been multiple SBs in Baltimore, because Modell was literally told that he won't win a SB in Cleveland and was offered a new stadium and tax incentives to move the team.

But since Belichick was the sacrificial lamb in that move, either way, in your scenario the multiple SBs are in Baltimore.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea must’ve been really hard for them to notice the RT moving early over and over again with so much going on. It’s not like they have somebody specifically watching for that kind of shit before the play.

Is there a youtube clip? I didn't watch the game closely... would love to see the blatant missed false starts.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Nice post Rain Man... another point worth discussing, there are 7 refs and 22 players on the field. Offenses and defenses run much more complex schemes than before. Rules have growing nuances to them.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-offic...ies-positions/

I think it is increasingly difficult for those 7 guys to pay attention and see everything in this complex, fast paced game. The NFL certainly needs to take greater advantage of technology, willingly admit that there are things the human eye misses and find a way to leverage things like replay better in every play.

Hell, in 10 years there will be multiple IOT devices in the game balls, on the sidelines, in the uniforms with the technological ability to sense and see everything in real-time. Maybe it won't take that long... you'll have the humans relaying what they are told from AI.

It's not so complex that the refs miss a blatant false start on a touchdown pass for the Rams.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

There's a part of me that wants KC to win the SB this year just to shut a number of you up, but somehow...

The will NEVER allow us to beat NO or LA for a title.

But of COURSE a Donk fan doesn't want to believe the NFL is rigged - every single SB you've ever 'won' has been tainted, all the way from that TD in Arrowhead that got called "incomplete" in January 1998 and basically caused the resinstitution of replay all the way to Peyton's walk off retirement gift when Cam Newton decided he really didn't want to recover his own fumble...

Yeah, I may wish to have strong cognitive dissonance with that going on, too...

But guess what!? The NFL uses my team for a cum rag at an orgy, so I don't have any rose-colored blinders for that shit. I've got crusty cum-rag blinders, totally different view.

Oh, **** Donk forever.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

It's not so complex that the refs miss a blatant false start on a touchdown pass for the Rams.

THE GUY WAS MOVING BEFORE THE BALL WAS SNAPPED.

Offensive schemes haven't evolved to the point where it's hard to see THAT



THE EXCUSES THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE TO JUSTIFY THE BLATANT MANIPULATION IS STUNNING.

You are a grown, free-thinking adult. Quit trying to justify why a PROFESSIONAL official would repeatedly blow a call that a volunteer flag football official can make.

Just stop. It's not helping your case.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Is there a youtube clip? I didn't watch the game closely... would love to see the blatant missed false starts.

The game is on NFL.COM, NFLnet, probably youtube.

Check it out, watch that RT false start AT LEAST 6 times that weren't called.

Minimum.

WATCH THE REF WINK AT JARED GOFF on the tipped pass that they tried to call DPI - it's when Reid goes apeshit on the refs. Watch the ref on the right as he turns away from Reid.

Check out Donkeykong Suh PUNCH Mahomes in the back of the head at the end of a scramble.

All egregious AND SUSPICIOUS no-calls by themselves.

Taken together, and in context with everything happening in LA, both in the NFL and in real-life...then you're just a SUCKER if you think it's all on the up-and-up.

This world is a cold, hard ****ed-up place. Everything you've ever been told is a ****ing lie.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

The game is on NFL.COM, NFLnet, probably youtube.

Check it out, watch that RT false start AT LEAST 6 times that weren't called.

Minimum.

WATCH THE REF WINK AT JARED GOFF on the tipped pass that they tried to call DPI - it's when Reid goes apeshit on the refs. Watch the ref on the right as he turns away from Reid.

Check out Donkeykong Suh PUNCH Mahomes in the back of the head at the end of a scramble.

All egregious AND SUSPICIOUS no-calls by themselves.

Taken together, and in context with everything happening in LA, both in the NFL and in real-life...then you're just a SUCKER if you think it's all on the up-and-up.

This world is a cold, hard ****ed-up place. Everything you've ever been told is a ****ing lie.

You didn't mention the no call when Marcus Peters jumped on top of Patrick Mahomes II when he made the tackle after an INT. Unnecessary roughness is unnecessary.

[Otter]

What's the difference between 'maybe' and 'gaz' options?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea must’ve been really hard for them to notice the RT moving early over and over again with so much going on. It’s not like they have somebody specifically watching for that kind of shit before the play.

Exactly

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Is there a youtube clip? I didn't watch the game closely... would love to see the blatant missed false starts.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cianaf/st...0%2Fframe.html

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

The game is on NFL.COM, NFLnet, probably youtube.

Check it out, watch that RT false start AT LEAST 6 times that weren't called.

Minimum.

WATCH THE REF WINK AT JARED GOFF on the tipped pass that they tried to call DPI - it's when Reid goes apeshit on the refs. Watch the ref on the right as he turns away from Reid.

Check out Donkeykong Suh PUNCH Mahomes in the back of the head at the end of a scramble.

All egregious AND SUSPICIOUS no-calls by themselves.

Taken together, and in context with everything happening in LA, both in the NFL and in real-life...then you're just a SUCKER if you think it's all on the up-and-up.

This world is a cold, hard ****ed-up place. Everything you've ever been told is a ****ing lie.

Actually I believe it all in this thread or the other one posted plainly for anyone with more than an casual interest.

Someone posting opinions without actually reading the thread, or seeing the evidence reminds me of the casual fan I ran into yesterday. She was wearing a Chiefs jacket and wanted to be part of a conversation I was having.

She interrupted by saying "but he broke his ankle." We decided she was talking about Alex Smith's leg and knew someone connected with the Chiefs had broken a bone.