Mellinger | Ex-GM Peterson ‘saddened’ by Chiefs’ situation

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

Carl Peterson was fired 2008 for orchestrating this train wreck. What QB did he get for ya? Ya. Nobody x 1000

He actually built the foundation of the team before he left.

It took an impressive man to basically waste that young talent.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He actually built the foundation of the team before he left.

It took an impressive man to basically waste that young talent.

Carl Peterson built what?

Bowe
Hali
DJ (passed on Rodgers)
Colquit (drafted in third round)

He was relieved of draft power for the 2008 draft in which the team got as much talent in that draft as the previous 5 that Carl ran.

Carl was propped up by a really good coach that couldnt ever win the big game. Marty turned teams around everywhere he has been.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Carl Peterson built what?

Bowe
Hali
DJ (passed on Rodgers)
Colquit (drafted in third round)

He was relieved of draft power for the 2008 draft in which the team got as much talent in that draft as the previous 5 that Carl ran.

Carl was propped up by a really good coach that couldnt ever win the big game. Marty turned teams around everywhere he has been.

He wasn't relieved of all draft power. He collaborated a lot more with the head coach than he did in the past and Kuharick, but Peterson was still heavily involved. This isn't from me, this is from a guy who I used to talk to that was involved in the FO.

Actually, Herm's first draft, was the same way with Tamba. A lot was made that Carl stepped down from that 08 draft, but that's just not true. He gave more responsibility to others, but he was involved heavily.

[Hammock Parties]

Midass Touch.

[ChiefMojo]

We can slam Carl for the QB failure when it comes to drafting (he did give us Montana/Green) but he did a LOT of good though but just stayed to long.

[DeezNutz]

Need Sizzle, Fire Pioli-Save...

[TheGuardian]

Personally, I think there are two Carl's.

The Carl that got here, and really did want to win championships.

Then the super rich, fat n happy Carl that was content with a full Arrowhead and going 9-7.

Often times, success is the biggest obstacle in attaining more success. I think that's what happened there. Carl didn't want to take the big chances LATER that would have possibly put us over the hump.

[The Bad Guy]

Peterson should have uppercut that mother ****er Pioli.

Pioli and his henchmen made it a point to rip basically everything this organization had when he took over. "Players are too slow" "I could win 2 games with 22 guys off the street".

Clark Hunt has turned into a piece of shit like Pioli. Peterson should have been invited to that ceremony. I hated CP from 2000-2008 but the ****er is the reason this team likely wasn't relocated somewhere else.

The Chiefs have seriously just turned into a miserable bag of **** mixed with piles of shit. They ****ing suck on the field, they treat fans like they are garbage, and they make former players and staff feel unwanted.

[The Bad Guy]

There's absolutely no reason for a team to alienate past players, coaches and FO execs. It just speaks to Pioli's level of insecurity.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's absolutely no reason for a team to alienate past players, coaches and FO execs. It just speaks to Pioli's level of insecurity.

yeah...you have to be a real dick, plus it is just a waste of time and a waste of good will that should be easy to leverage in a football town

the thing is not just that pioli is a bad gm - he is - but that he is genuinely a shitty human and that is destroying the Chiefs brand and reservoir of good will (with Clark's implicit permission), and it takes longer to restore these things than it does to destroy them

making the fans hate the franchise is actually really hard to do...and he has done it...Clark seems not to realize this yet, imo, which is strange

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

.Clark seems not to realize this yet, imo, which is strange

He does. There was an article from the Star about it.

Chiefs officials – Hunt, most notably – have done a rotten job of showing it, but they’ve been privately concerned about a growing fan resentment for some time now. Hunt continues to meet with angry fans, partly to gather information to help diagnose the problem.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He does. There was an article from the Star about it.

yeah, i've read the propaganda too...

if he can't smell the stench in pioli in his own building, talking to fans is pointless...

he's done and said nothing as pioli has spent the last 4 years burning every bridge there was to burn...

[KCinNY]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

making the fans hate the franchise is actually really hard to do...and he has done it...Clark seems not to realize this yet, imo, which is strange

Remarkable isn't it?

At one time, it would've been very difficult for management to create mere fan apathy given the enduring loyalty Chiefs fans have shown for years.

Unbelievably...in less than four years Hunt and Pioli have cultivated more than apathy but widespread fan hostility. They have done so by all available means: horrid drafts and FA decisions, garbage coaching staffs, callous alienation of former Chiefs players...and of course, Pioli's well-documented culture of arrogance, fear and mistrust enforced by his Secret Service wannabe goons.

I think Clark realizes it...but I'm convinced that he simply doesn't care.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's absolutely no reason for a team to alienate past players, coaches and FO execs. It just speaks to Pioli's level of insecurity.

I still don't get the prohibition against having contact with former players. You'd think they would want guys like Willie Lanier to meet the current crop of players, even if most won't even remember him playing.

[DeezNutz]

TBG and Guardian with a host of solid posts.