Left Tackles

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Alt's last name was "Thomas" would we be seeing as much fanfare/desperation to go get him from Chiefs fans? Methinks no.

People would at least be considering the cost of acquiring him.

As it stands "We're going to trade of for Alt" seems to be done with NO consideration of just exactly what that would cost.

We'd essentially gut 2 years worth of drafts to do that. Nobody's doing that for Joe Smith. Nobody's even considering it.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

People would at least be considering the cost of acquiring him.

As it stands "We're going to trade of for Alt" seems to be done with NO consideration of just exactly what that would cost.

We'd essentially gut 2 years worth of drafts to do that. Nobody's doing that for Joe Smith. Nobody's even considering it.

Wait....Is Joe Smith related to Tyron? That's PEDIGREE!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

People would at least be considering the cost of acquiring him.

As it stands "We're going to trade of for Alt" seems to be done with NO consideration of just exactly what that would cost.

We'd essentially gut 2 years worth of drafts to do that. Nobody's doing that for Joe Smith. Nobody's even considering it.

You'd literally need him to fall to 8 or 9 and then you're talking 2 1's...and some change like a 2 or a 3 and a 4 etc.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You'd literally need him to fall to 8 or 9 and then you're talking 2 1's...and some change like a 2 or a 3 and a 4 etc.

One of the greatest competitive advantages that come with having a Franchise QB is that you NEVER have to make a move like that.

You don't have to give up 2 full drafts for a single player. You don't have to tank an entire season.

And the surest way to piss that away is by doing it anyway.

You just don't make a move 20+ places in the first round when you have a quarterback. Honestly, even for Marvin Harrison Jr it wouldn't make much sense. The only way you could even justify that is if you think the guy is Julio Jones and is going to go out there and destroy creation in week 1.

And I've not been that confident about a WR ever. Even Julio didn't have me that hot and bothered. Maybe if Megatron 2.0 was in the draft but even then you've seen guys that measure like Calvin did and they still aren't Calvin Johnson.

I just can't see a scenario whereby it made sense. If something catastrophic like a Mahomes injury happened and we ended up drafting 14 or something - sure, move some major assets to move up from 14 to 5 and get your blue-chipper.

But the cost to move up from 32 when teams already mark your future picks down by virtue of your relative dominance of late is just WAY too prohibitive.

[Balto]

I would not be surprised if Veach took a guy that is being pegged "RT only". I think the plan was to move Taylor over to LT if Veach was able to get a RT in the draft. HE didn't so they went with the Brown signing and just kept Taylor at RT.

Why wouldn't this year be the same? I think ALL OT's regardless of RT/LT experience could be Veach's pick.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Balto

I would not be surprised if Veach took a guy that is being pegged "RT only". I think the plan was to move Taylor over to LT if Veach was able to get a RT in the draft. HE didn't so they went with the Brown signing and just kept Taylor at RT.

Why wouldn't this year be the same? I think ALL OT's regardless of RT/LT experience could be Veach's pick.

I think they may too but its all about measurables and has nothing to do with LT or RT designations. But theres still so few with the right measurable. It's going to be a bitch.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I think they may too but its all about measurables and has nothing to do with LT or RT designations. But theres still so few with the right measurable. It's going to be a bitch.

I agree and you always hear about Reid/Veach tackles must have long arms.

Wayna Morris: 35.125
Darian Kinnard: 35
Lucas Niang: 34.25

OT's they signed or went after:
Trent Williams: 34.25
Jawaan Taylor: 35.25
Orland Brown: 35
Donovan Smith: 34.4

2024 Tackles:
Joe Alt: 34.25
Amarius Mims: 36.125
Troy Fautanu: 34.5
Tyler Guyton: 34.125
Patrick Paul: 36.25
Taliese Fuaga: 33.125(I'd guess he is off Veach's board)
Olumuyuwa Fashanu: 34
Kingsley Suamataia: 34.25
Jordan Morgan: 32.875(For sure off the board even if people are mocking him at 32)
Blake Fisher: 34.375


Of course tie in split times and you can start to weed down an idea "Veach" OT.

Have I said how much I LOVE Mims and his upside!!!! Could be the perfect storm for us! Mims drops because of experience and allows Veach to trade up and get him. Could easily end up the best OT in the draft!

[Mecca]

I actually think the Chiefs probably really like Patrick Paul..

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I actually think the Chiefs probably really like Patrick Paul..

I wouldn't be against it at all.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I actually think the Chiefs probably really like Patrick Paul..

I do too. I could see him being the pick even with all the clucking about value.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I actually think the Chiefs probably really like Patrick Paul..

I agree and I could see Veach having two plans…..1). Trade up for a tackle(Mims or Fautanu) OR 2) Trade down and take Mims early/mid 2nd round.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Balto

I agree and I could see Veach having two plans…..1). Trade up for a tackle(Mims or Fautanu) OR 2) Trade down and take Mims early/mid 2nd round.

I agree with this, but I don't think we're going to be able to trade up on the terms that the other teams will be demanding. I don't think Mims will be available in the mid 2nd round though.

I expect the Chiefs to trade back with #32 & #64 so that we have 2 picks in the early-mid 2nd round where we'll take a pretty good OT and WR.

[Toad]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas

[RealSNR]

My ideal scenario is we stay at 32 and Guyton is there for the taking. Or somebody better, but I think Guyton is the most realistic, and I think he's going to be a damn good player.

[BryanBusby]

Guyton just screams proto-typical Ravens OT.