Bob Suttons Defense actually leads the league in sacks

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

That's the point of most of the discussion in this thread, really.

The defense looked serviceable the past several weeks but against all the likely playoff teams we've played this year, they have been clowned. Probably not going to make a deep playoff run when you have to ask so much of your offense every week.

Do you think the Rams are asking themselves that? Or the Chargers? Or Steelers?

ALL of the contending teams have the same problem. This is an offense-driven league now.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you think the Rams are asking themselves that? Or the Chargers? Or Steelers?

ALL of the contending teams have the same problem. This is an offense-driven league now.

Rams got two stops after the two minute warning, so probably not.

It is an offense-driven league, yes. But both defenses had opportunities to get stops inside the last two minutes to win the game. The Rams did it twice. The Chiefs shit the bed.

All contending teams have the same problem, but we have it to a much worse degree.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Rams got two stops after the two minute warning, so probably not.

It is an offense-driven league, yes. But both defenses had opportunities to get stops inside the last two minutes to win the game. The Rams did it twice. The Chiefs shit the bed.

All contending teams have the same problem, but we have it to a much worse degree.

The Chiefs final actual defensive series of the game was 3 plays and -1 yards, giving Mahomes the ball back with 1:04 and a timeout. He promptly tried to go for it all and threw a pick.

At some point, you're going to have to take the whole of it and not just pick out the parts you want and discard the rest.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Chiefs final actual defensive series of the game was 3 plays and -1 yards, giving Mahomes the ball back with 1:04 and a timeout. He promptly tried to go for it all and threw a pick.

At some point, you're going to have to take the whole of it and not just pick out the parts you want and discard the rest.

Come on now...that was more on the Rams for being too aggressive and throwing the ball.

Sure, the defense got the ball back. Give them credit for that (even though the Rams gifted them a TO by throwing). And Mahomes certainly failed to take advantage by throwing his worst INT of the year.

But saying the defense was good in the last two minutes like you are implying just is not true.

Rams gave us an extra chance with poor clock management and some bonehead offensive play calling. Mahomes failed to capitalize on that and that is on the offense and him.

But if the defense gets a stop when it had the chance, the game was over. The Rams had NO timeouts left and we gave up an easy, easy, score.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Come on now...that was more on the Rams for being too aggressive and throwing the ball.

Sure, the defense got the ball back. Give them credit for that (even though the Rams gifted them a TO by throwing). And Mahomes certainly failed to take advantage by throwing his worst INT of the year.

But saying the defense was good in the last two minutes like you are implying just is not true.

Rams gave us an extra chance with poor clock management and some bonehead offensive play calling. Mahomes failed to capitalize on that and that is on the offense and him.

But if the defense gets a stop when it had the chance, the game was over. The Rams had NO timeouts left and we gave up an easy, easy, score.

So the Chiefs got a stop because the Rams were too aggressive but Mahomes trying to go for it all, leaving to two INT's, was good defense by the Rams?

I'm out. Can't debate double standards.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So the Chiefs got a stop because the Rams were too aggressive but Mahomes trying to go for it all, leaving to two INT's, was good defense by the Rams?

I'm out. Can't debate double standards.

Mahomes screwed up. It is not a double standard. The Rams made plays. Mahomes first INT his arm was hit because the defense was able to put pressure on him. The second was purely a mistake on his part.

It was a team loss. But twice this year the Chiefs have gone up against what are considered elite teams in the NFL, and both times the defense shit the bed in critical situations.

You expect the offense to be perfect but cut the defense too much slack. That is as much of a double standard as anything.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Mahomes screwed up. It is not a double standard. The Rams made plays. Mahomes first INT his arm was hit because the defense was able to put pressure on him. The second was purely a mistake on his part.

It was a team loss. But twice this year the Chiefs have gone up against what are considered elite teams in the NFL, and both times the defense shit the bed in critical situations.

You expect the offense to be perfect but cut the defense too much slack. That is as much of a double standard as anything.

Except I don't expect the offense to be perfect. And I don't cut the defense too much slack.

Too many people around here only see black and white. That's the problem. Football isn't Boolean.