Chiefs Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft - Page 9

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06:46 PM

Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59.

For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock...

Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson
He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth.

Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State
Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL.

Your turn.

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The better CB will always have more value than the best LG but with that said, I wouldn't be crushed if they took Whitehair and nabbed Burns in the second.

I could think of worse scenarios.

Agree. That would be a decent 1, 2.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

This is the first I've heard about coaches from Clemson not giving him good reviews.

The reports Bucky and Terez put out were strictly about combine interviews and how he did on the blackboard.

I generally like Terez but his reporting has been sloppy this off season.

staylor26 · 04-19-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I generally like Terez but his reporting has been sloppy this off season.

I think he means well, and he's certainly better than Teicher, but I don't have a lot of respect for his football knowledge.

O.city · 04-19-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I disagree. Obviously, I could be wrong be someone with immense talent will be there at 28.

The blue chippers will be long gone. There will be good players there but it could fall where the best player available is a dl or something.

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

With as much as we play dime and nickel and like to bring the safeties down, von bell makes some sense.

He can okay some nickel corner as well

I'm not a lover of Vonn Bell. His tape seems sorta bland; near the action, but not making it happen. But, he is highly rated, so it's probably just me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

3 starters and Andy's lovechild (Albert Wilson) at WR. Not seeing an immediate impact from a WR.
Jimmy Wilson and Ron Parker can play well at nickel I'm the slot. Would a first rd safety play much and make an impact?

If they took Bell, Parker's days would be numbered at safety, which doesn't seem like a sound move.

I'd rather see Miles Killebrew in the 4th and have him take Abdullah's spot.

Su'a Cravens would be good as well but reportedly, he's moving up the boards.

O.city · 04-19-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

3 starters and Andy's lovechild (Albert Wilson) at WR. Not seeing an immediate impact from a WR.
Jimmy Wilson and Ron Parker can play well at nickel I'm the slot. Would a first rd safety play much and make an impact?

If he's versatile enough, yeah. He can play the Buchanan type role

O.city · 04-19-2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If they took Bell, Parker's days would be numbered at safety, which doesn't seem like a sound move.

I'd rather see Miles Killebrew in the 4th and have him take Abdullah's spot.

Su'a Cravens would be good as well but reportedly, he's moving up the boards.

Bell would allow parker to play more safety and less nickel corner. Which is a good thing.

Bell could also play in the box on 3rd downs and such

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If he's versatile enough, yeah. He can play the Buchanan type role

Taking a safety might also provide insurance as per not having to spend huge dollars to extend Berry. Hate to see that much spent on a safety; especially one with not top notch coverage skills.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Bell would allow parker to play more safety and less nickel corner. Which is a good thing.

Bell could also play in the box on 3rd downs and such

So you think they'd drop Bell into Abdullah's role?

If so, isn't that too high for a 1 down player?

O.city · 04-19-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So you think they'd drop Bell into Abdullah's role?

If so, isn't that too high for a 1 down player?

We're in 3 safety sets like, 70 percent of defensive snaps. Bell would replace abdullah, allow parker to play safety for the majority and can play nickel corner.

He can come down next to dj on 3rd down in the box as well.

RunKC · 04-19-2016, 10:26 PM

I also think CB will be a 2nd or 4th rd pick due to not only the faith they seem to have in Gaines and Nelson, but Parker playing well at CB and Jimmy Wilson previously playing well in the slot.
I would ****ing love it if we took Kalan Reed rd 2. Sending our DB coaches to his pro day was very telling.

5'11 1/4 ft 192 lbs
4.38 40
41.5 inch vertical-tied best at the combine
11 bench reps

Dude shut out Amari Cooper and played him alone. 19 passes defended and 4 INT's vs the same competition Gaines faced at Rice.
**** it. Give me Vernon Butler and Kalan Reed in the first 2 rds and watch this defense kick some ass.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

We're in 3 safety sets like, 70 percent of defensive snaps. Bell would replace abdullah, allow parker to play safety for the majority and can play nickel corner.

He can come down next to dj on 3rd down in the box as well.

Which is exactly why I think Lee would be a better fit

O.city · 04-19-2016, 10:30 PM

We need to be 3 or 4 deep solidly at corner, they'll come away with a corner. Same with wr.

It's open for them alot of ways. I wouldn't be overly pissed with Whitehair I guess

**Meatloaf** · 04-19-2016, 10:33 PM

Dorsey seems to fill "holes" via FA, and that seems to open up the draft for him. Heck, we could go ANYWHERE with these picks.

04-19-2016, 06:40 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9119447	Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59. For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock... Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth. Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL. Your turn. Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 04-19-2016 at 06:46 PM..
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04-19-2016, 10:26 PM	#132
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2119611	I also think CB will be a 2nd or 4th rd pick due to not only the faith they seem to have in Gaines and Nelson, but Parker playing well at CB and Jimmy Wilson previously playing well in the slot. I would **ing love it if we took Kalan Reed rd 2. Sending our DB coaches to his pro day was very telling. 5'11 1/4 ft 192 lbs 4.38 40 41.5 inch vertical-tied best at the combine 11 bench reps Dude shut out Amari Cooper and played him alone. 19 passes defended and 4 INT's vs the same competition Gaines faced at Rice. it. Give me Vernon Butler and Kalan Reed in the first 2 rds and watch this defense kick some ass. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray**
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04-19-2016, 10:30 PM	#134
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2614064	We need to be 3 or 4 deep solidly at corner, they'll come away with a corner. Same with wr. It's open for them alot of ways. I wouldn't be overly pissed with Whitehair I guess
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Meatloaf Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $4140359	Dorsey seems to fill "holes" via FA, and that seems to open up the draft for him. Heck, we could go ANYWHERE with these picks.
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