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Old 05-06-2014, 07:28 AM   #1
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My new theory: Liz is Berlin's daughter.
hmm.....not bad....not bad at all.
me still thinks it's Red though.....yet that would be very obvious wouldn't it?
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:55 AM   #2
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so.....the Egyptian/Hispanic gal....the mole....
I think it's kinda weird that all seems to be well with her and Red now. 'cause Red don't play around man. and she was cold busted. maybe I've forgotten something. why is she not dead? I know she was cooperative after she got busted.....but still....why didn't Red kill her??
She wasn't actually the mole, Diane Fowler was. Fowler issued the orders (through Cooper) that released the Post Office schematics through Meera, as part of a "security update" bid. Red made a deal with Meera to help find who issued the orders, and ultimately killed Fowler because of the information Meera provided (stole from Cooper).
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:58 AM   #3
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She wasn't actually the mole, Diane Fowler was. Fowler issued the orders (through Cooper) that released the Post Office schematics through Meera, as part of a "security update" bid. Red made a deal with Meera to help find who issued the orders, and ultimately killed Fowler because of the information Meera provided (stole from Cooper).
right right!
yes.
couldn't remember the specifics.
now....with all that in mind....I'm STILL surprised Red didn't kill her anyways after all was said and done cause.....he's Red!
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:49 PM   #4
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Well, I expected her to die. Just not in the first 15 minutes.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:41 PM   #5
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Little too obvious with the guy cutting his hand off, but otherwise a great finale.

Nice touch at the end. Guess we can officially call him Dad now.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:50 PM   #6
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Little too obvious with the guy cutting his hand off, but otherwise a great finale.

Nice touch at the end. Guess we can officially call him Dad now.
First episode I've ever seen, and yeah, the whole thing had a Keyser Soze vibe to it.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:43 PM   #7
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Little too obvious with the guy cutting his hand off, but otherwise a great finale.

Nice touch at the end. Guess we can officially call him Dad now.
Not so fast. Could be the show telling us yes, its true what we have led you to believe or suppose to think.

This is smartly done show that doesn't make everything black and white tied up in a neat bow at the end. That makes them showing us the burns at the end not necessarily a tell.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:23 PM   #8
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:39 PM   #9
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Well that leaves a whole lot of possibilities...still don't think Red is her father. For a show with so many twist is would be such a let down. Berlin her father...maybe, or how about her grandfather.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:45 PM   #10
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Well that leaves a whole lot of possibilities...still don't think Red is her father. For a show with so many twist is would be such a let down. Berlin her father...maybe, or how about her grandfather.
Red keeps saying that knowing who her father is would be a major risk to her. Who would be a bigger risk than Red himself? The old Red died metaphorically in the fire, so her father is kinda dead.

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Yeah, father doesn't seem likely. Seemed too old. Berlin I mean.

Still have to figure out what the connection between Red and Berlin is, and who all these mysterious government intelligence guys are. But it felt like a satisfying finale.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:58 PM   #13
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Red could be the dissident that Berlin's daughter fell in love with...however I'm thinking maybe he is the handler (from his Navy Intelligence days) working with the dissident in the USSR. Red has guilt when that family (except Lizzy) is wiped out. As for the other internationals he has something on...maybe it's proof they had a role in the fall of the USSR, or tired to stop it.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:03 PM   #14
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Red could be the dissident that Berlin's daughter fell in love with...however I'm thinking maybe he is the handler (from his Navy Intelligence days) working with the dissident in the USSR. Red has guilt when that family (except Lizzy) is wiped out. As for the other internationals he has something on...maybe it's proof they had a role in the fall of the USSR, or tired to stop it.
It could be anything at this point. I imagine just about everything we see now is misdirection.

Just have to hope that the writers have a plan and do an interesting job.
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It could be anything at this point. I imagine just about everything we see now is misdirection.

Just have to hope that the writers have a plan and do an interesting job.
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