ZMA is the shit

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by NewChief

It's the rage, now. I also know two different local dudes who committed suicide after getting on the shit. People are having kids later. Their kids get in high school/college and they start wanting to become "hip" again because they have more time on their hands to go out and hang with their wives, only they're nearing 50 years old. So they start getting testosterone in order to recapture their youth. While it may work for some, the results aren't always good.

You know two guys that committed suicide and it was caused by testosterone? I'm skeptical that the testosterone would have been the cause.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Slick

You know two guys that committed suicide and it was caused by testosterone? I'm skeptical that the testosterone would have been the cause.

Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.

I don't know what they were doing exactly, but I suppose I can see if they weren't being treated properly how that might happen. Some docs don't prescribe it to have a nice even level in your system, but rather highs and lows for example 100mg every 2 weeks is bad IMO. If the levels were on the decline after being high then I suppose how I can see it might be related. Going from 800 to 150 and back up and down isn't good.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.

I'd say that test actually made me much HAPPIER...and I was using dosages that far exceeded the tiny doses used in HRT