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Is a defensive 4-3 change coming to KC?
I saw this article from arrowhead addict. The guy had an interesting theory that KC might be thinking about switching to the 4-3 scheme based on some recent draft picks and other things. Thought it was worth discussing. What do you say experts? Any merit to what this guys saying?
Full article here: https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/10/...ges-andy-reid/ Quote:
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10-10-2018, 09:11 AM | #61 | |
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10-10-2018, 09:11 AM | #62 |
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Has Ford been that bad vs the run this year though?
The issues I've seen are just where guys guess gaps wrong or play undisciplined up front. I'd look at trying to get another super athletic ILB to put next to Ragland, beef up the front a little and secure the back end. I don't think you're that far off. |
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10-10-2018, 09:14 AM | #63 |
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I think he's been inconsistent. He's had some nice plays but he might be more suited to the 4-3.
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10-10-2018, 09:16 AM | #64 | |
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This defense is very different than what he's played for almost a decade prior. |
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But if you put him in-line, he can't use that athleticism to stay out of the scrums. That's just abandoning his best attribute and asking him to lean heavily on one of his worst (basic core strength). That's why I'd be just fine with him as a Will but less sure of his ability to play the Sam. If the TE can get around him and turn him into the wash, he's in trouble. But on the weak side, he can stay clear of that and if nothing else, use that athleticism to present a credible obstacle out there. And he can keep the play in front of him so the 'rush/stay' decision is a lot easier for him to make than it presently is playing mostly uncovered in a 3-4. Then again, I get paid precisely dick to have these answers so I could be completely wrong.
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I hate guys doing this in contract years, but **** he's been good. Like, legit top 3 pass rusher in the league. I don't know that he will keep it up or if injuries will let him. |
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I'd see if something that puts $36 million in his pocket over the first three seasons with some nominal dead money after that would get the job done. If it doesn't, I'd transition tag him and see if the market ends up soft for him somehow. The franchise tag has just skyrocketed so much that it doesn't make sense to use it on guys who you can't expect to be truly elite. He's played well to this point, but we'll never truly trust his health and in the NFL health is absolutely a skill (one of the most critical ones).
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10-10-2018, 09:38 AM | #69 |
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I am no defensive expert by any means but I think with the way the league is mostly all passing the 4-3, 3-4 is kind of out dated. I would think teams would start using more hybrid defenses like the 3-3-5 and 2-4-5. I saw the Ravens D against the Steelers running some 2-4-5 and they pretty much stuffed them.
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You try to run a 2-4-5 against the Chiefs and you'll get obliterated. Lets not forget that the OL has 5 guys plus the quarterback. Unless you're sending 6 guys, you have a numbers advantage in your secondary. Moreover, we've seen full well how ineffective sending 3 is. So whether you start in a 4-3 or a 3-4, the odds are high that at least 4 guys are going after the QB the vast majority of the time. I don't think the concept of a 'base' defense is outdated at all. I think the idea of sticking with it 80% of the time is. That's why I think your best bet is to develop a base defense that dovetails nicely with your sub-packages. The best way to do that is a base with 4 down lineman, IMO, because I don't want my sub packages sending 3 or fewer even in obvious passing down situations.
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Eagles run what.....the wide 9?
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I think everyone occasionally busts out some wide 9 alignments but I don't think it's anyone's 'base' package. And really, it's not a personnel group as much as an alignment; the way you set your splits.
I think the Wide 9 is far easier to run with 3-4 personnel and I'm pretty sure Schwartz is a 4-3 guy. He was in Detroit anyway.
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If you take away the TWO BLATANT (UNCALLED) HOLDS against the donks and the multiple times he's forced inside only to watch the ILBs fail to fill their gaps, he's played pretty darn stout. FAX |
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I just think a player like Ragland is way out dated in this league. You need more fast\hybrid guys than thumpers for LB's.. Just imo. |
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