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Old 10-08-2014, 08:09 PM  
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-- I CHALLENGE YOU TO GIVE UP SODA!!!

Ok Fat ****s.

I'm challenging all of you 'pop' (as you say in KC) lovers to throw away the habit forever.

I'm a former user and have been clean for over two years now. I will do one 12-24 ounce cola once every month or less, So I wouldn't say I'm ENTIRELY clean - but pretty well behaved. Most of you pop heads drink tons of it, daily.

Well we have some darned good news tonight because tonight 10-08-14 if you commit we will end this habit or decrease it. I see no issue with rewarding yourself every now and again w/ a coke classic or whichever your poison. Provided you're seriously quitting. If it's something you can't handle and have to quit forever and NEVER reward yourself with a coke classic or whichever your poison, then certainly don't risk it. And only you know your type and restraining ability.

I'd like to challenge anyone who has thought about this but never been pushed. It's just not that hard to quit. So.....


Anyone down?
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Old 10-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #76
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Don't you think that something written in the early 1990's could not still be true today?
No. My doc hasn't advised drinking them again for one. And not in this case. In fact there's more on it.

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Because it isn't. Diet Soda and sweeteners are fine just like most everything else in moderation. If you are drinking a 6 pack of diet soda a day, I but your eating habits match your shitty drinking habits and that's probably why you're fat, not because of some sweetener.
You're not informed. I am very into eating healthy.
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Old 10-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #77
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it's basically a drug that tricks your brain into thinking you are getting sugar... nothing bad can come from that.
Really, because my rationale brain tells me the good and bad things I am eating, so after I drink a diet pop I don't immediate get forced into eating a whole pizza.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:00 PM   #78
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Crown in Seven? Never heard of that combo. Interesting.
I drink it straight when in a library sort of mode, with 7 in casual situations. I like both, your mileage may vary..
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:03 PM   #79
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For those demanding something scientific

Dr. Hyman

A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).

The study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products....

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/ea...jcn.112.050997
This and other research shows how diet sodas make people fat and sick.

And that diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!



http://drhyman.com/blog/2013/02/15/h...secrets/#close
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:03 PM   #80
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I'm strongly considering cutting back on my soda consumption. It's pretty out of hand as we speak.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:03 PM   #81
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No. My doc hasn't advised drinking them again for one. And not in this case. In fact there's more on it.



You're not informed. I am very into eating healthy.
You seem to realize many of us here might know more about something that you. I've gone to school for how the body works, I've been a personal trainer, I've been a competitive Olympic Lifter, I still powerlift. I also know healthy eating and probably more so than you. Nothing about having a diet pop everyday is going to make you fat. We have rationale brains so that we ourselves can decide what to eat. Blaming that on something other than yourself is ludicrous.

And PS, doctors don't know everything about everything. I'm not really sure why people think they do.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:06 PM   #82
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Dr. Hyman

A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).

The study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products....

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/ea...jcn.112.050997
This and other research shows how diet sodas make people fat and sick.

And that diet drinks may be even worse than regular sugar sweetened sodas!



http://drhyman.com/blog/2013/02/15/h...secrets/#close
You do realize these studies are worthless since they can't prove causation in the slightest since they can't control all the other factors that can lead to DM II right? That first study wasn't even randomized!
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:06 PM   #83
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:09 PM   #84
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Ever heard the phrase "correlation does not imply causation"? Overweight people tend to switch to diet drinks. However, if they don't control their calorie intake, they can stay overweight and get diabetes.

The paper itself says this:

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Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.
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You do realize these studies are worthless since they can't prove causation in the slightest since they can't control all the other factors that can lead to DM II right? That first study wasn't even randomized!
But Dr. Hyman says it's true.



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Old 10-08-2014, 09:11 PM   #86
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You do realize these studies are worthless since they can't prove causation in the slightest since they can't control all the other factors that can lead to DM II right? That first study wasn't even randomized!
I'm not hear to argue about it or debate which you seem to often want to do. If you want to drink them go ahead. It's your health not mine. So I don't give a rip what you do or think about it. But, I don't consider aspartame or Splenda good options for wellness. I just put something up because two here wanted something other than I had, which was long ago. In fact, I almost typed, flame away at the source next because I knew that would be coming next especially from you.
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I'm not hear to argue about it or debate which you seem to often want to do. If you want to drink them go ahead.
I don't consider aspartame or Splenda good options for wellness. I just put something up because two here wanted something other than I had, which was long ago.
You're the one that said "Aspartame is really bad for you" and told Lewdog he was uninformed. You should have a little more ammo in your popgun before shooting it off.
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But Dr. Hyman says it's true.



Ah, no, if'n you read it, he cites the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
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Ah, no, if'n you read it, he cites the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
I did read it and posted the conclusion of the journal article that said they didn't prove ASB lead to T2D.
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