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Old 02-26-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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There has to be something, doesn't there?

And Stafford was a superior prospect. A FAR superior one? I don't think so.
Stafford was the third best prospect of the past five years, behind only Luck and RG3.

To claim that Geno Smith is just a hair shy of Stafford's standing as a prospect is misguided. I desperately want us to draft the guy, but I'm not going to blind myself that drafting Smith is legitimately a reach.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:35 AM   #2
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Stafford was the third best prospect of the past five years, behind only Luck and RG3.

To claim that Geno Smith is just a hair shy of Stafford's standing as a prospect is misguided. I desperately want us to draft the guy, but I'm not going to blind myself that drafting Smith is legitimately a reach.


He isn't a reach. He's a better prospect than Sam Bradford and Matt Ryan.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:38 AM   #3
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He isn't a reach. He's a better prospect than Sam Bradford and Matt Ryan.
Ya but those guys suck /loser of the argument
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:44 AM   #4
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Ya but those guys suck /loser of the argument
Hindsight is 50/50.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:48 AM   #5
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He isn't a reach. He's a better prospect than Sam Bradford and Matt Ryan.
I am very comfortable disagreeing with that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:50 AM   #6
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I am very comfortable disagreeing with that.
I got no problem with that. Agree to disagree.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM   #7
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He isn't a reach. He's a better prospect than Sam Bradford and Matt Ryan.
If he's the 3rd best prospect in the last 5 years (behind only Luck and RG3) there should be tons of teams and tons of talk about teams moving up for him.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:59 AM   #8
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If he's the 3rd best prospect in the last 5 years (behind only Luck and RG3) there should be tons of teams and tons of talk about teams moving up for him.
There might be teams interested. But if they Chiefs intend to take him, we'll never hear about it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:05 PM   #9
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There might be teams interested. But if they Chiefs intend to take him, we'll never hear about it.
KC said they are open to talks about trading down. If Smith is one of the best prospects in years then there will be talk because all of those other QB hungry teams would want to get out the word that they tried or are trying to land him.
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Stafford was the third best prospect of the past five years, behind only Luck and RG3.

To claim that Geno Smith is just a hair shy of Stafford's standing as a prospect is misguided. I desperately want us to draft the guy, but I'm not going to blind myself that drafting Smith is legitimately a reach.
I have to ask. Where is Smiths deficiencies compared to Stafford? Besides a little arm strength what's the difference? IMO Stafford was a little over rated.
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I have to ask. Where is Smiths deficiencies compared to Stafford? Besides a little arm strength what's the difference? IMO Stafford was a little over rated.
Stafford has the strongest arm in the league, almost certainly. He also had multiple years playing at a very good level against the toughest defenses the SEC had to offer. In his final year, he was extremely impressive.

Geno Smith has never been extremely impressive. He's very up and down, which hopefully our coaches could correct. He has extremely impressive tools, and he seems like a good guy, but his on the field product is much, much worse than Stafford's was, and against weaker defenses.

Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
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Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.
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Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.


Fair point.
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Edit: It's also worth noting that Geno was playing with multiple NFL caliber receivers. Tavon Austin is probably a first rounder. To my knowledge, Stafford did not have that.
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Stafford's final year of college....he had A.J. Green.
He also had Mohammed Massaquoi (2nd round draft pick @ WR) and a guy named Knowshon Moreno (1st round RB).
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He also had Mohammed Massaquoi (2nd round draft pick @ WR) and a guy named Knowshon Moreno (1st round RB bust that's a huge piece of shit in the NFL).
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