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Old 01-08-2013, 02:53 PM   #1
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Joeckel is a better prospect than Jake Long. No question. But can't go OT here. Just can't.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:59 PM   #2
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Joeckel is a better prospect than Jake Long. No question. But can't go OT here. Just can't.
Wrong.

Joeckel is VERY athletic and has excellent feet. Superb pass blocker.

He's also used to playing in spread spacing on the edge and struggles at the point of attack. Mediocre run blocker. Will struggle to adapt to NFL defenses.

Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Long. Long had a MUCH higher floor. MUCH higher.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM   #3
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Wrong.

Joeckel is VERY athletic and has excellent feet. Superb pass blocker.

He's also used to playing in spread spacing on the edge and struggles at the point of attack. Mediocre run blocker. Will struggle to adapt to NFL defenses.

Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Long. Long had a MUCH higher floor. MUCH higher.
He played one year in the "spread" offense. He's only a mediocre run blocker because he is white and baby-faced. You're wrong.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:05 PM   #4
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He played one year in the "spread" offense. He's only a mediocre run blocker because he is white and baby-faced. You're wrong.
You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #5
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You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
Actually he was. And he's kept Matthews on the right side for a reason. I am an ATM fan, but I don't think Im a homer. Don't really like Porter as a prospect and I think Moore is overrated by many as a pass rusher--though I still think he will be a damn good player
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:16 PM   #6
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You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
He also turned 20 in Novemeber of that year. Though you are still misinformed. Every A&M fan knew what they had coming into this year.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:53 PM   #7
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The only QB's good enough to be drafted by the Chiefs are QB's we can't pick.

Stafford? Not good enough until we were sure we wouldn't get the #1 pick.
Ryan? Not until he was already drafted by ATL and playing well.
RG3? No way, until WAS moved into the 2 slot and he became one of the best prospects ever.

With the #1 pick this year it's a certainty that no QB is worth our pick.
This. Same thing every draft
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:54 PM   #8
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Charlie Ward was just a few decades ahead of his time. Look at the types of QBs everyone wants now. If he played at Florida State today he would be a highly sout after prospect.
This. He was an RG 3 type player in the era of the pocket passer
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:56 PM   #9
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Well, guess its good to know that we don't have to send our scouts out to look at any 1st round talent. We already have the pick sown up in January.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:00 PM   #10
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Well, guess its good to know that we don't have to send our scouts out to look at any 1st round talent. We already have the pick sown up in January.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:09 PM   #12
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And Im not really sure who I would put ahead of Joeckel. So maybe. At least top 3.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:35 PM   #13
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Luke Joeckel is an injury-prone, one year wonder who converted from TE. ****ing dumbass
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:24 PM   #14
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Luke Joeckel is an injury-prone, one year wonder who converted from TE. ****ing dumbass
Hyperbole is great, isn't it?

I took lessons from you.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:58 PM   #15
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Who in the playoffs is built around an OT not a QB?

Ravens? No
Broncos? No
Patriots? No
Texans? No
Seahawks? No
Falcons? No
Packers? No
SF? No

Now, what is the ONLY thing holding back some of these teams from being Super Bowl favorites?

Ding Ding Ding! Quarterback play. Take the goddamn QB (Not ranting at you specifically Turkey)
Yep.. The texans and the 49ers are not built around the QB but in turn the QB position is the thing holding those two teams back
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