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Old 11-24-2012, 11:27 AM   #1
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:16 AM   #2
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Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matt Barkley
Matt Cassel

You can pretty much shake them up in a bag and end up with the same thing.

Palmer has years of NFL experience so he's better now but overall they are almost the same guy.

Palmer and Sanchez have slightly better arms
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matt Barkley
Matt Cassel

You can pretty much shake them up in a bag and end up with the same thing.

Palmer has years of NFL experience so he's better now but overall they are almost the same guy.

Palmer and Sanchez have slightly better arms
If a Carrol-coached USC QB can't get it done, why the **** would I want one led by Lane ****ing Kiffin?!?!?!?

Pass.

Pass.

Pass.

Nien.

Nyet.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:16 PM   #6
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Carson Palmer
Mark Sanchez
Matt Barkley
Matt Cassel

You can pretty much shake them up in a bag and end up with the same thing.

Palmer has years of NFL experience so he's better now but overall they are almost the same guy.

Palmer and Sanchez have slightly better arms
Palmer was on track to be in the HOF before his knee got ****ed.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:41 PM   #7
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All USC QBs do is steal money in the NFL.

A USC QB has never won a SB.

Sanchez won a couple playoff games. Rodney Peete won one. That's the limit of their magnificence.
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All USC QBs do is steal money in the NFL.

A USC QB has never won a SB.

Sanchez won a couple playoff games. Rodney Peete won one. That's the limit of their magnificence.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:28 PM   #9
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Kiper: Barkley's stock has dropped dramatically
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LOS ANGELES -- Matt Barkley was a potential top-five pick in this year's NFL draft.

Then, once he announced he was staying for his senior season, he was the consensus No. 1 overall pick for the 2013 draft.

Now, according to ESPN NFL draft expert Mel Kiper Jr., Barkley would be lucky to go in the top 20 come April. The USC Trojans senior's stock has dropped dramatically this season, with his 15 interceptions and the Trojans' four losses playing a big role in it.

And Barkley suffered a shoulder sprain in his throwing shoulder in USC's last game, a loss to UCLA, so his college career may well be over.

"He's hurt right now, so he's not doing anything to improve his stock," Kiper said Tuesday, in a phone interview. "But I think in terms of the season, it obviously didn't go as well as he would've hoped. He wasn't as good this year as he was last year."

Several things outside of Barkley's control contributed to that, according to Kiper, including the loss of left tackle Matt Kalil and dropped passes by his star receivers. But Barkley didn't have a single signature win this season, and that hurt him.

Even more, his physical limitations came to light. Barkley is listed at 6-foot-2 and 230 pounds and may measure in smaller on both counts at the NFL scouting combine in February.

"It's not about what Barkley did or didn't do, it's about what he is physically," Kiper said. "If you're gonna overcome a mediocre year, you've gotta be great physically. You've gotta have size, you've gotta have a rocket arm, you've gotta have mobility.

"Barkley doesn't have that. … He's not a guy who's gonna wow you over from that standpoint. Matt's a pocket guy who's 6-2 and doesn't have a great arm, so he's gotta be a great decision-maker, tremendously accurate and a great leader. He's gotta have all those things going for him in the NFL to overcome the lack of great physical qualifications."

Kiper pointed to former Washington quarterback Jake Locker as an example of what Barkley is not -- an elite athlete who overcame his statistical shortcomings to still go in the top 10. Locker went eighth to the Tennessee Titans in 2011.

Had Barkley come out last season, Kiper projected him as a possible top-five selection, a good bet to go to the Cleveland Browns and ahead of Ryan Tannehill.

"History, from an NFL perspective, would have been rewritten," Kiper said.

Now, Kiper projects him to go somewhere between the 20th and 40th picks, with a chance to go as high as 15th in a best-case scenario and as low as the middle of the second round in a worst-case situation.

The Senior Bowl, on Jan. 26, will help narrow that range down, Kiper said. But the longtime draft analyst also noted that Barkley's senior season won't have any impact on his NFL future -- only how it starts.

"Whatever he's gonna be, he's gonna be," Kiper said. "The year didn't have any impact on what type of NFL quarterback he's gonna be."

And Kiper left the door open for a sudden, unexpected change in Barkley's stock, pointing to all the pre-draft movement for quarterbacks in recent seasons, especially in 2005.

"Two weeks before that draft, people thought Aaron Rodgers was gonna be the No. 1 overall pick," Kiper said. "He went 24th, Alex Smith went No. 1. Now he's a great quarterback and Smith is an average one."
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@JarradPage44: Christian Ponder & Jay Cutler got those Barkley #'s right now
Ponder 22 completions for 159yrds
Cutler 23compketions for 188yrds
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Barkley is Cassel 101.
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Barkley is Cassel 101.
THIS!

THERE IS NO GREATER NFL COMPARISON THAN TO CA$$HOLE.

YES, DEAD SERIOUS. He's ****ing disaster.

DO NOT ****ING WANT...
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THIS!

THERE IS NO GREATER NFL COMPARISON THAN TO CA$$HOLE.

YES, DEAD SERIOUS. He's ****ing disaster.

DO NOT ****ING WANT...
@nfldraftscout: If Bray does declare, as I'm being told he will, would be my No. 3 QB right now behind Geno Smith & Tyler Wilson. Lot of potential, big arm


Where's Barkley at lol
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@JarradPage44: Christian Ponder & Jay Cutler got those Barkley #'s right now
Ponder 22 completions for 159yrds
Cutler 23compketions for 188yrds
#CheckDown


Barkley is Cassel 101.
Comparing cassel and barkley is like comparing smith to Akili Smith. very dumb.
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