The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread

[mdchiefsfan]

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I know this is early but I can't wait for the trilogy to come out on Bluray.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I know this is early but I can't wait for the trilogy to come out on Bluray.

Then I am going to watch them on this amazing behemoth.

[lcarus]

Anyone think Batman survived by bailing on the "bat" and having the "bat submarine" waiting in the water? Lol...who knows.

[scorpio]

Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

[lcarus]

After sleeping on it, this movie is growing on me. I absolutely LOVED TDK immediately after viewing, this movie took a bit to sink in. I really loved Bane's voice. I was totally expecting him to have the generic deep gravelly voice. Pleasantly surprised he had a jolly sounding, incredibly creepy voice. That's the voice nightmares are made of lol. They nailed it.

I also wasn't wild about the Talia twist at the end at first, because I just knew going in that there would be an al Ghul twist (I thought it would be that Ra's was somehow alive) but once they started talking about Ra's and a child, I'm too familiar with Batman lore to not have thought of Talia. I was too stupid to put 2 and 2 together and realize that Cotillard was Talia, but she looks perfect for the part in my opinion.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Anyone think Batman survived by bailing on the "bat" and having the "bat submarine" waiting in the water? Lol...who knows.

the most likely explanation is that he switched Bats when he flew "through" the building after lifting off with the bomb. There were at least 3 Bats, so it's not impossible a second one was waiting that he used to fly away after setting autopilot on the bomb carrier.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by JD10367

This is an excellent question, because after 12 viewings I'd swear that the voice is done by different people. Perhaps they overdubbed with someone else to improve the voice? In the beginning it sounds different. In certain points it sounds different (e.g. during the fight with Batman). The accent sounds different, the intonation sounds different, even the tone/pitch. Either it's multiple voices or Hardy should get an Oscar for "Best Voice Manipulation". (He does have a fascinating way of pronouncing words, like during his big speech before blowing open Blackgate Prison, or when he says, "Keep her close... he'll come for her," and accents "clo" and "her" in a rising lilt that's unusual.)

I thought he sounded like Liam Neeson doing a Sean Connery impression.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

I love the cartoon bomb and all the people just going about their business as if nothing is going on.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

I am not really sure the entire experience has sunk in on me yet. I am no where near being able to rank it in the trilogy because I'm not sure I have fully grasped what I watched last night.

Just saw it last night and this describes my feelings on this film.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I thought Nolan was contributing to the story?

He's credited for story, but my understanding is that he just worked on the initial concept with David S. Goyer, who is writing the script. Nolan probably had approval over the final script.

Originally Posted by Micjones

Who voiced Bane? Was it Hardy, himself?

Yes. All Hardy.

Originally Posted by Silock

I think you're looking a little too literally at it.

I think you are despicable for saying something so dumb.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

you are now the second person I have seen quote this scene.

[vailpass]

Some of you "grown men" crack me up.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Just because this is Nolan's vision of the Batman universe should not give him the right to just hack out and completely change characters that fans (what should be his target audience) have known for years. You can put your own mark on a film and tell your story in a unique way without slapping a name from the books on one of your characters you dreamed up and trying to pass them off as the same person.

Miranda Tate should have stayed Miranda Tate, because that damn sure was not Talia Al Ghul.

While I understand that to maintain the realistic, grounded look, concessions had to be made with Bane's appearance, there was absolutely ZERO excuse to destroy his origin of growing up in the pit and becoming what he was, other than just doing it so he could get that hack Talia twist over. No mention of Venom at all, yet we are to believe that he can punch through a concrete pillar without any problems. Excommunicated by Ra's Al Ghul. I nearly pissed myself laughing at that. Ra's Al Ghul found him to be a more worthy successor than Batman, who he had coveted for years.

Im trying to understand why someone who is making a film based on such long standing, and high quality source material would go out of his way to make fans of this material sit wide eyed in a WTF moment.


Talia is on the same level of not even close as Wolverine and Sabretooth being brothers in X MEN Origins, and The Sandman as Uncle Ben's Killer in Spider-Man 3.

I guess its just too hard to take material that's already written and proven to be awesome and put in on the big screen, even for Christopher Nolan.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Nightwing is Robin

What I meant is that they would skip over JGL being Robin and jump right into a new version of Nightwing. It just makes more sense for the universe that has already been created by Nolan.

I should note that I do not believe Nolan will ever write or possibly be attached to such a project, but I do not doubt that Warner Brothers will make such a project. After all this trilogy will ultimately make about three billion dollars or so.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by RockChalk

People such as yourself are not Nolan's target. He wasn't after the 35-year old man still living in his parents basement surrounded by thousands upon thousands of comic books, pizza boxes, and diet coke cans. Begins and TDK should have provided enough indication for you that Nolan had no intentions of staying perfectly true to the comics.

Of the fans you reference, I'd guess that only about 5% of people who watch TDKR follow the comics and know the back story of the characters. Those 5%, of which you are included, can be disappointed and cry to each other on your comic book forum. Sure, the movie had some plot-holes, but I don't think it took away one damn thing from how good of a conclusion this was. The remaining 95% of us can enjoy that Nolan put together one hell of series, with a conclusion that I (and most everyone who saw it) found to be quite enjoyable.