Movies and TV The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread - Page 13

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

JD10367 · 07-22-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69

I would love to argue that Hathaway deserves a best supporting actress nomination, but since she wasnt nominated for Love and Other Drugs where she was brilliant and naked half the time, I just cannot see the academy ever taking her serious for some reason.

Ah, yes, "Love And Other Drugs". IIRC: puffy nipples, hairy bush.

**Tribal Warfare** · 07-22-2012, 05:54 PM

The only thing that irked me was when Batman was on the Batcycle and miraculously Evel Knieveled his escape while being halted at gunpoint by Gotham PD.

kcpasco · 07-22-2012, 06:40 PM

I thought the movie was really good

I guess my one complaint would be once he climbed out of the prison how in the hell did he get back to Gotham so fast with no money?

And I guess the answer could only be because he's BATMAN, that's why.

CoMoChief · 07-22-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

The only thing that irked me was when Batman was on the Batcycle and miraculously Evel Knieveled his escape while being halted at gunpoint by Gotham PD.

I just don't get how Bane died? His defeat was kinda "half assed" IMO.

Sure-Oz · 07-22-2012, 06:43 PM

Pretty much Bane would kick batmans ass from what i can see, esp the older batman. Getting shot teh **** up will do...Bane was defeated though by batman after busting up his mask, probably the only way he could win

**The Bad Guy** · 07-22-2012, 07:09 PM

Loved, loved this movie. Not a huge superhero movie buff, but this was the best movie I've seen in a long, long time.

100% agree with Brock about Maggie, too.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-22-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I just don't get how Bane died? His defeat was kinda "half assed" IMO.

Wasn't he shot by Hathaway when she was on the bike?

CoMoChief · 07-22-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Wasn't he shot by Hathaway when she was on the bike?

I thought she threw some kind of gernade or something at him.

Either way....as much of a hardass Bane was, IMO they should have done that a little better.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 07-22-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I thought she threw some kind of gernade or something at him.

Either way....as much of a hardass Bane was, IMO they should have done that a little better.

no, she shot him with the bat cannon on the bat bike.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-22-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I thought she threw some kind of gernade or something at him.

Either way....as much of a hardass Bane was, IMO they should have done that a little better.

I think the focus was shifting at that moment to al Ghul and away from Bane so that could be one explanation for his quick departure.

Deberg_1990 · 07-22-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I thought she threw some kind of gernade or something at him.

Either way....as much of a hardass Bane was, IMO they should have done that a little better.

Batman had already returned and kicked his ass. She just finished him off.

tk13 · 07-22-2012, 08:15 PM

I didn't think it was that bad. Batman had just finally worn him down and basically beat him in a very long fight, and had him down before Talia jumped in. It's not like he was unbeatable the whole movie then got knocked out by a cheap shot.

Plus it showed Bruce's trust in someone had payed off. Especially right after Miranda Tate had betrayed him.

JD10367 · 07-22-2012, 08:21 PM

Is he dead? In his own words, "show me the body?"

He'd served his purpose for the film, and was removed from the plotline. Dead, probably, but maybe not.

**the Talking Can** · 07-22-2012, 08:22 PM

why are people using spoiler tags in a spoilers thread? lol

anyways, i liked it but it didn't love it...felt 'dutiful'...like we all - audience, nolan, batman - had to march through this grim morality play...a bit too self serious for me, but that's the arc of this trilogy and Nolan was true to it

the only fun in the movie was catwoman: Hathaway was awesome and hot, and hot and awesome (and I've never liked her)

the Dark Knight is a better piece of entertainment, with the Joker still basically casting a shadow over the whole series (for me)...he was way more complex and interesting and fun and evil than Bane...

but i'm not a comics guy, so a lot of the details and genealogy are lost on me...and maybe i was just in a bad mood going in, or i just really like the joker...

Wallcrawler · 07-22-2012, 08:39 PM

This whole movie left a bad taste in my mouth. Its clearly not aimed toward people who know the characters very well unless we're addressing the stupid twist that exploited people's knowledge of the books in order to get the twist over. Nice douche....nice.

To trash the origin of Bane so thoroughly, and for the sake of a ridiculous twist to reveal Talia Al Ghul in an equally horrific trashing of book version is just ridiculous to me. You take Bane, arguably the most vicious and cerebral enemy Batman has ever known and try to turn him into a sympathetic character at the end? Just your regular run of the mill pit prisoner who got a frosty smooth beatdown for protecting a child? Lame.

Why the hell does hothead cop know who Batman is? Its never explained, its just dropped in our lap. You. Youre Batman. Why did you wear the mask? So dumb. Then later to actually make his birth name "Robin" was just too much.

Talia's turn and entire role in the plot was asinine. She's in love with Bruce in the books, saved his life on more than one occaision and even had his kid. So why she was chosen to lead the "Nuke Gotham City" plan, I have no idea. Her character being in this film made about as much as Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man 3. Something about the third movie in a trilogy that brings out the WTF moments I guess.

The Bane fights were way too Rocky 3 for me. First fight is a no contest beatdown, we get a nod to the breaking, but not the actual breaking of the Bat. Then you dangle from a rope for a few months and boom. Spine realigned, a few crunches, pushups, and chinups later, we're ready to go back and for some reason now youre able to just take Bane to the cleaners. Oh, and how Bane didnt become pink mist when shot by the Batpod when we saw it take down an entire wall of crushed cars is quite beyond my comprehension.

The ending bugs me as well. Its like Nolan either didnt know what he wanted to do with it, or he wanted to just leave it open for interpretation, or try to please both the unhappy ending seekers as well as happy ending seekers, you just cant try to apply any logic to it or it all falls apart.

We assume that Batman is killed flying the bomb out over the bay. He says there's no auto pilot. We see Batman give that long stare into the camera and then boom. Okay, Bats is toast but he saved Gotham. Kind of a bummer, but we'll roll with it. Funeral, Alfred sobbing, Wayne's will being executed, the works. If it just stopped here, with "Robin" finding the cave it wouldve been fine.

But wait!

A dejected Fox talks to the techs to see what he couldve done to help with the Auto Pilot. Tech says that it was patched six months earlier by Bruce Wayne. Cut to Alfred in Florence and he sees Bruce and Selina.

So, is Alfred imagining Bruce and Selina? It is much better for Nolan's sake if he is. It insults our intelligence far less. But the majority say no no, Bruce fixed the auto pilot, he got out. And he didnt say anything to Alfred because it was just like in Alfred's fantasy where they would say nothing to each other but they would both know that he'd made it.

Well, then this brings to mind a quote from one of my favorite books, Misery, by Stephen King.

quote Annie Wilkes

They also called them serials. I'm not stupid ya know... Anyway, my favourite was Rocketman, and once it was a no brakes chapter. The bad guy stuck him in a car on a mountain road and knocked him out and welded the door shut and tore out the brakes and started him to his death, and he woke up and tried to steer and tried to get out but the car went off a cliff before he could escape! And it crashed and burned and I was so upset and excited, and the next week, you better believe I was first in line. And they always start with the end of the last week. And there was Rocketman, trying to get out, and here comes the cliff, and just before the car went off the cliff, he jumped free! And all the kids cheered! But I didn't cheer. I stood right up and started shouting. This isn't what happened last week! Have you all got amnesia? They just cheated us! This isn't fair! HE DID'NT GET OUT OF THE *bleep* - A - DOODIE CAR!

So what if Bruce fixed the auto pilot? He never got out. We watch the Bat fly right out over the ice (if you fall in, youre dead in minutes) and explode. And even if we, the viewers didnt see it, are we meant to believe that if Bruce got out of that thing before it blew, that NOBODY watching it fly out there saw anything? Weak.

You also mean to tell me that after that little bitch Selina Kyle trapped Bruce with Bane for him to get utterly destroyed that the actual Batman of comic lore would give two shits about her from then on is completely ridiculous. Theres no way he would take that shit, let alone run off to Florence with her. Its insulting.

The entire idea that Bruce just up and says "Peace, Im out" at all is just ludicrous. Its the main reason the death, while more of a downer is far more believable.

Ive got so many issues with this film I cant even list them all for fear of carpel tunnel. Pretty disappointed with it in general.

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07-22-2012, 06:40 PM	#183
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07-22-2012, 08:15 PM	#192
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1992500	I didn't think it was that bad. Batman had just finally worn him down and basically beat him in a very long fight, and had him down before Talia jumped in. It's not like he was unbeatable the whole movie then got knocked out by a cheap shot. Plus it showed Bruce's trust in someone had payed off. Especially right after Miranda Tate had betrayed him.
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07-22-2012, 08:22 PM	#194
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	why are people using spoiler tags in a spoilers thread? lol anyways, i liked it but it didn't love it...felt 'dutiful'...like we all - audience, nolan, batman - had to march through this grim morality play...a bit too self serious for me, but that's the arc of this trilogy and Nolan was true to it the only fun in the movie was catwoman: Hathaway was awesome and hot, and hot and awesome (and I've never liked her) the Dark Knight is a better piece of entertainment, with the Joker still basically casting a shadow over the whole series (for me)...he was way more complex and interesting and fun and evil than Bane... but i'm not a comics guy, so a lot of the details and genealogy are lost on me...and maybe i was just in a bad mood going in, or i just really like the joker... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy" Last edited by the Talking Can; 07-22-2012 at 08:28 PM..
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07-22-2012, 08:39 PM	#195
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4242912	This whole movie left a bad taste in my mouth. Its clearly not aimed toward people who know the characters very well unless we're addressing the stupid twist that exploited people's knowledge of the books in order to get the twist over. Nice douche....nice. To trash the origin of Bane so thoroughly, and for the sake of a ridiculous twist to reveal Talia Al Ghul in an equally horrific trashing of book version is just ridiculous to me. You take Bane, arguably the most vicious and cerebral enemy Batman has ever known and try to turn him into a sympathetic character at the end? Just your regular run of the mill pit prisoner who got a frosty smooth beatdown for protecting a child? Lame. Why the hell does hothead cop know who Batman is? Its never explained, its just dropped in our lap. You. Youre Batman. Why did you wear the mask? So dumb. Then later to actually make his birth name "Robin" was just too much. Talia's turn and entire role in the plot was asinine. She's in love with Bruce in the books, saved his life on more than one occaision and even had his kid. So why she was chosen to lead the "Nuke Gotham City" plan, I have no idea. Her character being in this film made about as much as Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man 3. Something about the third movie in a trilogy that brings out the WTF moments I guess. The Bane fights were way too Rocky 3 for me. First fight is a no contest beatdown, we get a nod to the breaking, but not the actual breaking of the Bat. Then you dangle from a rope for a few months and boom. Spine realigned, a few crunches, pushups, and chinups later, we're ready to go back and for some reason now youre able to just take Bane to the cleaners. Oh, and how Bane didnt become pink mist when shot by the Batpod when we saw it take down an entire wall of crushed cars is quite beyond my comprehension. The ending bugs me as well. Its like Nolan either didnt know what he wanted to do with it, or he wanted to just leave it open for interpretation, or try to please both the unhappy ending seekers as well as happy ending seekers, you just cant try to apply any logic to it or it all falls apart. We assume that Batman is killed flying the bomb out over the bay. He says there's no auto pilot. We see Batman give that long stare into the camera and then boom. Okay, Bats is toast but he saved Gotham. Kind of a bummer, but we'll roll with it. Funeral, Alfred sobbing, Wayne's will being executed, the works. If it just stopped here, with "Robin" finding the cave it wouldve been fine. But wait! A dejected Fox talks to the techs to see what he couldve done to help with the Auto Pilot. Tech says that it was patched six months earlier by Bruce Wayne. Cut to Alfred in Florence and he sees Bruce and Selina. So, is Alfred imagining Bruce and Selina? It is much better for Nolan's sake if he is. It insults our intelligence far less. But the majority say no no, Bruce fixed the auto pilot, he got out. And he didnt say anything to Alfred because it was just like in Alfred's fantasy where they would say nothing to each other but they would both know that he'd made it. Well, then this brings to mind a quote from one of my favorite books, Misery, by Stephen King. quote Annie Wilkes They also called them serials. I'm not stupid ya know... Anyway, my favourite was Rocketman, and once it was a no brakes chapter. The bad guy stuck him in a car on a mountain road and knocked him out and welded the door shut and tore out the brakes and started him to his death, and he woke up and tried to steer and tried to get out but the car went off a cliff before he could escape! And it crashed and burned and I was so upset and excited, and the next week, you better believe I was first in line. And they always start with the end of the last week. And there was Rocketman, trying to get out, and here comes the cliff, and just before the car went off the cliff, he jumped free! And all the kids cheered! But I didn't cheer. I stood right up and started shouting. This isn't what happened last week! Have you all got amnesia? They just cheated us! This isn't fair! HE DID'NT GET OUT OF THE bleep - A - DOODIE CAR! So what if Bruce fixed the auto pilot? He never got out. We watch the Bat fly right out over the ice (if you fall in, youre dead in minutes) and explode. And even if we, the viewers didnt see it, are we meant to believe that if Bruce got out of that thing before it blew, that NOBODY watching it fly out there saw anything? Weak. You also mean to tell me that after that little bitch Selina Kyle trapped Bruce with Bane for him to get utterly destroyed that the actual Batman of comic lore would give two shits about her from then on is completely ridiculous. Theres no way he would take that shit, let alone run off to Florence with her. Its insulting. The entire idea that Bruce just up and says "Peace, Im out" at all is just ludicrous. Its the main reason the death, while more of a downer is far more believable. Ive got so many issues with this film I cant even list them all for fear of carpel tunnel. Pretty disappointed with it in general. TDK>Begins>Rises __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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