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Old 11-13-2012, 10:28 PM   #1
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love watching the Haley haters get their panties in a bunch.

I liked Todd and think things could have been different under better management.

I'm done here. He's not with the Chiefs anymore and I couldn't give a shit less.
What could you have possibly liked about Todd Haley?

He had the personality of a ****ing goat turd. His teams sucked ass on the field. He was a ****ing dick to his players and coaches.

Please explain.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #2
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What could you have possibly liked about Todd Haley?

He had the personality of a ****ing goat turd. His teams sucked ass on the field. He was a ****ing dick to his players and coaches.

Please explain.
Seeing as I was in Ohio during his time and not a member of the Chiefs, I don't have the first damn clue.

Seems like his ex players liked him. Breaston signed with the Chiefs because of him.

Anyway, that's all. I no longer care enough about Todd to continue discussing this.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:34 PM   #3
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Seeing as I was in Ohio during his time and not a member of the Chiefs, I don't have the first damn clue.

Seems like his ex players liked him. Breaston signed with the Chiefs because of him.

Anyway, that's all. I no longer care enough about Todd to continue discussing this.
Breaston signed with the Chiefs because they were the only team to give him $5 million up front and $5 million per year.

That's worked out well, considering he was deactivated last night.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:43 PM   #4
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That's worked out well, considering he was deactivated last night.
Yeah but his moral support was AMAZING
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:45 PM   #5
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What could you have possibly liked about Todd Haley?

He had the personality of a ****ing goat turd. His teams sucked ass on the field. He was a ****ing dick to his players and coaches.

Please explain.
The Steelers have scored 16 points in one other game.

Every other game they've scored 19 points or more.

The Ravens scored only 9 points against the Chiefs, and have scored 23 or more points in every other game.

Coincidentally, the Steeler and Raven games are the only games that the Chiefs have attacked early and often on defense from the opening kickoff.

I don't need a history lesson on the mistakes that haley made, but I contend that you are wrong that Haley was an example of the peter principle.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:48 PM   #6
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I don't need a history lesson on the mistakes that haley made, but I contend that you are wrong that Haley was an example of the peter principle.
When Todd Haley gets a job with anyone unrelated to the Steelers or Parcells, I'll believe that.

Whisenhunt/Cards: Steelers
Pioli/Chiefs: Parcells Jets/Parcells Dallas (Also, his Dad was with the Jets as well)
Tomlin/Steelers: Steelers/Hid Dad

If the guy is fired and hired by a team like Seattle next year AND he succeeds, I'll give a little. Until then, he's just another in a long line of guys that have jobs in the NFL due to nepotism/cronyism.

That's actually just one reason I'd like to see the Chiefs hire a guy like Chip Kelly and let him do it his way: No NFL ties.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:35 PM   #7
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Todd did a great job coaching his team against his Jets last year didnt he?
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:46 PM   #8
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You know what Id loved to have seen?

Todd Haley with a LEGIT QB prospect in KC.

Look at what he has done EVERYWHERE ELSE he a has had one of those.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:49 PM   #9
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You know what Id loved to have seen?

Todd Haley with a LEGIT QB prospect in KC.

Look at what he has done EVERYWHERE ELSE he a has had one of those.
Yeah, he scored 13 points last night against a 1-8 team.

Woo-hoo!
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:55 PM   #10
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Yeah, he scored 13 points last night against a 1-8 team.

Woo-hoo!
Ben was on pace to have his best year as a pro and the team was back in the elite class even though they were without some of their best players for a lot of the year.

Meanwhile, in KC...Bowe, DJ, and others have gone back to pre Haley form...or at best have gone back to being inconsistent.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:58 PM   #11
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Ben was on pace to have his best year as a pro and the team was back in the elite class even though they were without some of their best players for a lot of the year.

Meanwhile, in KC...Bowe, DJ, and others have gone back to pre Haley form...or at best have gone back to being inconsistent.
So, Derrick Johnson this season and especially last night, was pre-Haley form?

No.

As for Dwayne Bowe, he's clearly mailed it in. Every report says he wants out and it's clear from his level of play that it's true.

He must hate the Kansas City Chiefs, Pioli, Crennel, et al so much that he's willing to leave money on the table by playing so poorly.

That, my friend, has nothing to do with Todd Haley.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:10 AM   #12
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So, Derrick Johnson this season and especially last night, was pre-Haley form?

No.

As for Dwayne Bowe, he's clearly mailed it in. Every report says he wants out and it's clear from his level of play that it's true.

He must hate the Kansas City Chiefs, Pioli, Crennel, et al so much that he's willing to leave money on the table by playing so poorly.

That, my friend, has nothing to do with Todd Haley.
Yeah, its not like Bowe gave 10X this effort under Haley...

cmon Dane, you cant sit there and say that with a straight face, can you?
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:00 AM   #13
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Ben was on pace to have his best year as a pro and the team was back in the elite class even though they were without some of their best players for a lot of the year.

Meanwhile, in KC...Bowe, DJ, and others have gone back to pre Haley form...or at best have gone back to being inconsistent.
He's the OC and he's doing (for the most part) a very good job.

When he was a HC he was an overlord and azzhole. He did not win. He did not make good decisions as HC on gameday or with talent. He did not get along with anyone under him.

He's now back at OC, told his (limited) role, and he's good there.

He's a Mike Martz, Norv, etc...
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:02 AM   #14
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He's a Mike Martz, Norv, etc...
I'd say he's closer to Mike Nolan than either Martz or Norv.

Martz at least led his team to a Super Bowl and Norv's a Super Bowl winner under Jimmy Johnson.

Haley's just a **** that would be golf pro somewhere without his father's influence and connections.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:49 PM   #15
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You know what I'd love to see?

Any HC in KC with a LEGIT QB prospect.
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