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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

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Old 01-20-2015, 11:25 PM   #46
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exactly

I still dont see what ****ing difference it makes

if the refs checked their balls and handled the balls every snap

ffs
Thats the main thing I wanna know. Did the refs check the balls like they were supposed to do? Did the Pats alter them after that?
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:25 PM   #47
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Well the thing is, the Pats didn't know they were going to end up rolling right over Indy when they screwed with the balls. Saying that it doesn't matter since they blew them out is like saying it doesn't matter that I drove home shitfaced drunk since I didn't kill anybody along the way.
you have a point...

and if walt anderson comes out and says he DID check the balls and they were legit 2 hours before the game...

I will agree the pats ought to be punished

but if the refs let the balls pass as-is....

then its on them
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:25 PM   #48
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Thats the main thing I wanna know. Did the refs check the balls like they were supposed to do? Did the Pats alter them after that?
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:26 PM   #49
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You call bullshit? Sounds like it was confirmed. I'm not sure how something that is confirmed cheating is bullshit ... ?

Of course the Pats are a great team ... that's why it's so ridiculous they keep cheating.
Yes. Referees place the ball....you trying to tell me a LB
has a better feel for the ball than a line judge who handles the football a thousand times a season can't?
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:26 PM   #50
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just stupid.

First. NFL should be the ones that supplies the footballs.

Secondly, even if the NFL doesn't, then the balls checked should be checked during the anthem or like 10mins before kickoff.

Just dumb.
That's not going to stop them from messing with them once the game starts.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:26 PM   #51
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Well the thing is, the Pats didn't know they were going to end up rolling right over Indy when they screwed with the balls. Saying that it doesn't matter since they blew them out is like saying it doesn't matter that I drove home shitfaced drunk since I didn't kill anybody along the way.
Thing is. The balls air pressure only makes it easier to catch. The ball can still be defended. Still be intercepted. Ball can still be stripped. Ball carrier still be tackled.

It gave the pats a slight advantage.. shouldn't be punished to harshly
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Yes. Referees place the ball....you trying to tell me. Alb has a better feel for the ball than a line judge who handles the football a thousand times a game can't?
this is what doesnt make sense....

the refs handle it every snap......

so weird
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:27 PM   #53
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No idea, man...other than officials aren't really catching many balls from Tom Terrific
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:27 PM   #54
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exactly

I still dont see what ****ing difference it makes

if the refs checked their balls and handled the balls every snap

ffs
It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game. Even knowing this, the Pats should still go to the Super Bowl.

But I have no respect whatsoever for a team that would do that and surprised some people are okay with the Pats doing this.
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That's not going to stop them from messing with them once the game starts.
Yeah, but it would be as easy. I mean.. how hard is it to mess with them 2 hrs pregame? NFL should just be the main ball handlers at all times
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Thing is. The balls air pressure only makes it easier to catch. The ball can still be defended. Still be intercepted. Ball can still be stripped. Ball carrier still be tackled.

It gave the pats a slight advantage.. shouldn't be punished to harshly
So if I just drink a little bit past .08 and drive anyways, I'm just breaking the law a little bit so if I kill someone just a tad it's ok cuz I barely broke the law
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I can't believe people don't think this is a big deal..

Anyway, for anyone that isn't a complete idiot, what should the punishment be? After Spygate it's gotta be pretty steep, yes?
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Well the thing is, the Pats didn't know they were going to end up rolling right over Indy when they screwed with the balls. Saying that it doesn't matter since they blew them out is like saying it doesn't matter that I drove home shitfaced drunk since I didn't kill anybody along the way.
Did you drive home shitfaced?
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I can't believe people don't think this is a big deal..

Anyway, for anyone that isn't a complete idiot, what should the punishment be? After Spygate it's gotta be pretty steep, yes?
Every QB on the roster has to be replaced with Matt Cassel
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So if I just drink a little bit past .08 and drive anyways, I'm just breaking the law a little bit so if I kill someone just a tad it's ok cuz I barely broke the law
you think deflating balls is the same extremity as driving influenced, but not getting caught?

I would understand if the pats were somehow spiking the other teams drinks or giving themselves ped in their drink that it would compare in terms of "extremes" but deflated balls? c'mon son.
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