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Old 10-21-2018, 02:46 PM  
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What's wrong with the Bob Sutton scheme?
Set the talent level aside for a second. The scheme itself I contend is bunk. It appears to be a complete read & react defense. Sutton seems to "play not to lose" from a defensive aspect. Turnovers are what his scheme hinges on.

It just appears to be an indecisive scheme. Afraid to commit to attack the run or pass on any given play. It's like he's afraid to run blitz because it may not be a run. He's afraid to pass blitz because they may run the ball. His zone scheme does not seem to call for defenders manning up on offensive players in their zone.

I just can't get a read on what it is he is trying to do. It looks like he is trying to defend against everything all the time. It doesn't really come off that much different than the RAC 3-4.
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Old 10-21-2018, 03:15 PM   #16
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Yes, the amount of suck the Sutton defense has cannot be contained in 1 thread....
The amount of whine in Pete obviously can't be contained either.

Seriously, we all want Sutton gone. Give it a rest. Let's spend all of Mahomes' magical season talking about Bob freaking Sutton.
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lets hire Rex Ryan...D will probably still suck, but interviews will be more entertaining
It's the same defense, 1gap 3-4.

NEED BETTER TALENT.
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It doesn't really come off that much different than the RAC 3-4.
Talent is more important than scheme.

It's an ignorant rube that knows ****-all about football who blames Sutton's scheme for people not tackling and blowing coverages.
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The players don't tackle worth a damn and they don't cover in the secondary worth a damn. Not sure how the scheme can fix it. They need better players.
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No accountability for failure. They all just stare dumbly at each other on the sideline while Sutton stares at his sheet. Jobs need to be lost for play this bad.
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Old 10-21-2018, 03:48 PM   #21
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Nothing wrong with the scheme, it can do whatever the coaches want it to do.
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No accountability for failure. They all just stare dumbly at each other on the sideline while Sutton stares at his sheet. Jobs need to be lost for play this bad.
Andy is gonna get right on firing Bob..any day now.
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Old 10-21-2018, 03:52 PM   #23
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The players don't tackle worth a damn and they don't cover in the secondary worth a damn. Not sure how the scheme can fix it. They need better players.
Give us the entire Jacksonville defensive squad and our coaches still wouldn't know what to do with it. It would instantly drop to an average defense.
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It's the talent. Even defeneses with actual talent are struggling right now. Give Sutton the talent the Bears or Rams or Jags have and we're back to a top 5 defense.
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Give us the entire Jacksonville defensive squad and our coaches still wouldn't know what to do with it. It would instantly drop to an average defense.
No it wouldn’t. Sutton’s defense was top 10 in points allowed every year before 2017 when our talent level sunk.
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There is literally nothing he could do even a little bit better! It's 100% on the players!!!!!!
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Bob Sutton sucks. If he can't motivate the D to play ****ing D, then he needs to lose his job.

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No it wouldn’t. Sutton’s defense was top 10 in points allowed every year before 2017 when our talent level sunk.
No. 1 overall in 2015...you telling me Bob Sutton forgot how he did that??

People are ****ing STUPID.
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No. 1 overall in 2015...you telling me Bob Sutton forgot how he did that??

People are ****ing STUPID.
So are you telling me Hitchens and Fuller forgot how to play football. Whatever it is, there is a massive flaw in the system as it stands now, and it is Bob Suttons job to fix it.
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Bob Sutton sucks. If he can't motivate the D to play ****ing D, then he needs to lose his job.

Period.
If a professional athlete who is getting paid millions of dollars to play football needs Bob Sutton to 'motivate' them to 'play D', then maybe they should not be playing professional football.

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