NFL Draft Why Geno Smith fell in the draft - Page 8

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-01-2013, 10:41 PM

I'm including myself in the guilty because I thought that an FCS QB who couldn't beat out Tyler Palko would be a shit QB, but these are the posts from the 2008 draft thread as Flacco was drafted.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I just know the first round went so well that we MUST be taking Chad ****ing Henne at 35.

Front office saying the deal Schefter reported is bullshit, that NO did not offer 2 1sts and a 2nd.

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Hilarious, they take the wrong QB.

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

So who is the second round pick?

Brohm?

wow reach for Flacco

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Boller II...

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

wow, I can't believe they traded up for Flacco. He went WAY higher than anybody would have bet on

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

flacco looks bad but who knows for sure

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

he runs like a giraffe and throws the ball like baseball pitcher throwing a slider.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Flacco?

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Originally Posted by banyon

Oh, yeah that was so terrible I forgot.

Well, they if they grew a brain in the last round, they should STILL take one of them.

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Actually, they were the 3rd and 4th. Don't forget Flacco.

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Originally Posted by banyon

Why not? Everyone else will in 2 years.

**the Talking Can** · 05-02-2013, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm including myself in the guilty because I thought that an FCS QB who couldn't beat out Tyler Palko would be a shit QB, but these are the posts from the 2008 draft thread as Flacco was drafted.

bingo

cosmo20002 · 05-01-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

If 31 teams passed on him (some more than once) largely because he wasn't chatty enough during visits, that's pretty stupid. Article sounds like someone is blowing something out of proportion.

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2013, 09:22 PM

the 49ers, by the way, drafted a first round bust in Alex Smith, and it didn't destroy their franchise forever....they just drafted another QB and went to the super bowl

in case you need yet more proof that Chiefs are always doing it wrong

**Mav** · 05-01-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

the 49ers, by the way, drafted a first round bust in Alex Smith, and it didn't destroy their franchise forever....they just drafted another QB and went to the super bowl

in case you need yet more proof that Chiefs are always doing it wrong

Colin Kaepernick. Drafted in 2011. Alex Smith drafted in 2005. It took them 8 years to correct the mistakes by JOHN YORK, the cheap dirtbag.

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Colin Kaepernick. Drafted in 2011. Alex Smith drafted in 2005. It took them 8 years to correct the mistakes by JOHN YORK, the cheap dirtbag.

8 whole years?

do you know anything about the Chiefs?

do you know....anything?

**Mav** · 05-01-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

8 whole years?

do you know anything about the Chiefs?

do you know....anything?

you know whats hilarious. Is when douchbags like you cant read. Read my ****ing sig reerun. I listen to you ****ing chiefs fans cry all the time. I sat on my grandpas lap as John Elway crushed his browns hearts.

The browns have NEVER PLAYED IN A SUPER BOWL. we had our team stolen from us, we are the second worst team since 1999 in winning percentage, and the only team worse, went 0-16. I couldnt give a shit less about the CHIEFS problems. Booo ****ing hoooooo

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

you know whats hilarious. Is when douchbags like you cant read. Read my ****ing sig reerun. I listen to you ****ing chiefs fans cry all the time. I sat on my grandpas lap as John Elway crushed his browns hearts.

The browns have NEVER PLAYED IN A SUPER BOWL. we had our team stolen from us, we are the second worst team since 1999 in winning percentage, and the only team worse, went 0-16. I couldnt give a shit less about the CHIEFS problems. Booo ****ing hoooooo

then why the **** are you here trying to tell us...um, what, exactly?

how does one grow up to love shitty QBs?

does loving shitty QBs go way back in your family?

**BossChief** · 05-01-2013, 09:30 PM

Glenn Dorsey or Joe Flacco?
Tyson Jackson or Josh Freeman?
Jon Baldwin or Colin Kaepernick?
Dontari Poe or Ryan Tannehill/Russel Wilson? (6 pick was for sale at a discount)
Eric Fisher or Geno Smith?

Tell me which are your picks.

It's almost always the best decision to take the qb....the term "reach" is silly to use when talking quarterbacks.

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Glenn Dorsey or Joe Flacco?
Tyson Jackson or Josh Freeman?
Jon Baldwin or Colin Kaepernick?
Dontari Poe or Ryan Tannehill/Russel Wilson? (6 pick was for sale at a discount)
Eric Fisher or Geno Smith?

Tell me which are your picks.

It's almost always the best decision to take the qb....the term "reach" is silly to use when talking quarterbacks.

there is no risk in drafting QBs...the risk is in not drafting QBs

and "Chiefs" is the one word proof

and our fanbase is the dumbest

jspchief · 05-01-2013, 09:43 PM

This is why my perfect scenario was Geno sitting a year behind Hasselbeck. Give a chance to see how a pro's pro does it.

How do you balance the physical skills vs the personality? Will hr be Leaf? George? Cutler?

We already know what you get with a boyscout that can't play. Matt Cassel.

I don't think I'll actively root for or against Geno, but it probably will be interesting to watch it unfold.

RippedmyFlesh · 05-01-2013, 09:50 PM

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

Marrone had to control himself I am sure he could have blown a gasket watching that.
Syracuse hired Marrone when the chiefs hired haley and I told my wife my fav college team may have hired the better coach. Marrone would make haley cry and pee his pants.
Marrone out coached every coach Geno ever had that's why he was 0-3 vs SU.
Buffalo is Buffalo but Marrone is a good coach.

WV · 05-01-2013, 09:58 PM

Wanna know why the QB's in this draft all fell? Blame it on Luck and RGIII.

Those two guys alone in the last draft caused the expectations to become outrageous and the microscope on these QB's to become double or triple with comparisons in this draft. If Barkley had come out last year he would have been a top 15 pick. He had an off year and the microscopes got more powerful, so he fell and fell. Did he get that much worse??? No.

Discount it if you want, but this year was just a bad year to be Geno Smith and a bad year to for the Chiefs to have the #1 pick.

We were by far the most QB needy team until the abortion of trading #34 + more for Average Smith. Next would be the Raiders, but they traded for Flynn. Next would be Arizona who traded for Palmer. That leaves Buffalo and we won't even go there with Manuel going in the first while Geno and even Barkley did not. Buffalo and Buddy Nix are hardly a role model team.

Geno's biggest mistake was assuming this franchise even had one thought of drafting a QB in the first. It simply doesn't happen anymore. Todd Blackledge screwed us all to a life of mediocre retreads. I think it's in the Chiefs Head Coach official handbook. We'll call it the Hunt Rule.

**MahiMike** · 05-02-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

Wanna know why the QB's in this draft all fell? Blame it on Luck and RGIII.

Those two guys alone in the last draft caused the expectations to become outrageous and the microscope on these QB's to become double or triple with comparisons in this draft. If Barkley had come out last year he would have been a top 15 pick. He had an off year and the microscopes got more powerful, so he fell and fell. Did he get that much worse??? No.

Discount it if you want, but this year was just a bad year to be Geno Smith and a bad year to for the Chiefs to have the #1 pick.

We were by far the most QB needy team until the abortion of trading #34 + more for Average Smith. Next would be the Raiders, but they traded for Flynn. Next would be Arizona who traded for Palmer. That leaves Buffalo and we won't even go there with Manuel going in the first while Geno and even Barkley did not. Buffalo and Buddy Nix are hardly a role model team.

Geno's biggest mistake was assuming this franchise even had one thought of drafting a QB in the first. It simply doesn't happen anymore. Todd Blackledge screwed us all to a life of mediocre retreads. I think it's in the Chiefs Head Coach official handbook. We'll call it the Hunt Rule.

If Luck or RG3 had been there, I can assure the Chiefs would've drafted them.

Marcellus · 05-02-2013, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

If Luck or RG3 had been there, I can assure the Chiefs would've drafted them.

This is a fact too many people here gloss over when complaining we never draft a QB in the 1st round.

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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities. Marrone had to control himself I am sure he could have blown a gasket watching that. Syracuse hired Marrone when the chiefs hired haley and I told my wife my fav college team may have hired the better coach. Marrone would make haley cry and pee his pants. Marrone out coached every coach Geno ever had that's why he was 0-3 vs SU. Buffalo is Buffalo but Marrone is a good coach. Last edited by RippedmyFlesh; 05-01-2013 at 09:56 PM..
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05-01-2013, 09:58 PM	#13
WV Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In the Holler Casino cash: $10004950	Wanna know why the QB's in this draft all fell? Blame it on Luck and RGIII. Those two guys alone in the last draft caused the expectations to become outrageous and the microscope on these QB's to become double or triple with comparisons in this draft. If Barkley had come out last year he would have been a top 15 pick. He had an off year and the microscopes got more powerful, so he fell and fell. Did he get that much worse??? No. Discount it if you want, but this year was just a bad year to be Geno Smith and a bad year to for the Chiefs to have the #1 pick. We were by far the most QB needy team until the abortion of trading #34 + more for Average Smith. Next would be the Raiders, but they traded for Flynn. Next would be Arizona who traded for Palmer. That leaves Buffalo and we won't even go there with Manuel going in the first while Geno and even Barkley did not. Buffalo and Buddy Nix are hardly a role model team. Geno's biggest mistake was assuming this franchise even had one thought of drafting a QB in the first. It simply doesn't happen anymore. Todd Blackledge screwed us all to a life of mediocre retreads. I think it's in the Chiefs Head Coach official handbook. We'll call it the Hunt Rule.
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