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Old 08-31-2014, 07:30 PM  
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Franchise QBs don't need a good team
To win in the playoffs and win the Superbowl. Where the hell did this myth come from?

Dan Marino never won a Superbowl, who does everyone blame? The team around him.

Steve Young didn't win a Superbowl until he had an All-star cast around him, offensively and defensively with Sanders joining the team for the 1994 Superbowl run.

Denver went out and signed Talib, Ward, and Ware, some of the best defenders in the league at their positions. But they have Peyton Manning, he makes everyone better, they didn't need to sign those guys to win the Superbowl, right?

New England went out and signed Revis and Browner. But they have Tom Brady, he doesn't need a great defense to win a Superbowl. Their FO clearly has no idea what he's doing wasting that money on those corners.

What is GB doing with signing Julius Peppers, trying to improve their defense with draft picks like Haha Clinton-Dix, and bringing in more WRs like Davante Adams? They have Aaron Rodgers, he clearly doesn't need the help, after all, he's a franchise QB. What are these crazy franchises doing?

Could it be possible that, no matter who your QB is, you need to surround him with at least a good supporting cast, that means OL, WR, RB, TE, defense, in order to have a real chance of winning the Superbowl? What a freaken concept, the idea that great teams win championships.

The point here is that the argument that Smith isn't very good because he needs a good supporting cast around him in order to win and have a real shot at the Superbowl is ignorant, at best. Give him a solid OL and solid receivers and he'll be as good as any QBs out there not named Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or Drew Brees.

Right now Smith is trying to operate this offense with what might be the worst offensive line in the entire NFL combined with a bottom 5 receiving core. Yes, let's crucify him when he doesn't set the fantasy world on fire while playing behind this gem of an OL and with this "stellar" cast of WRs.

Quite frankly, unless the defense really surprises me, he'll have to play at least as good as Aaron Rodgers, at his best, can this season in order for us to have a shot at the playoffs much less a chance to win the division crown. Here's to hoping that Dorsey gets his head out of his ass and puts at least an average OL in front of Smith so that he doesn't have to run for his life after 2 seconds on virtually every play.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:55 PM   #46
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Are you comparing Hall of Fame QBs to a ****ing scrub?
Alex Smith's crap>Inmem58.
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:08 AM   #47
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:13 AM   #48
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And yet the guy still throws the ball down the field at a percentage that Alex can only dream of.
It isn't all about long passes. Reid's offense has always been based on a lot of short passes. Your obsession with YPA is ignorant and simplistic.
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:18 AM   #49
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It isn't all about long passes. Reid's offense has always been based on a lot of short passes. Your obsession with YPA is ignorant and simplistic.
It's not all about it.

But Alex Smith throws the ball down the field LESS THAN MATT CASSEL.

That's not gonna win games in this league.

When your QB plays like that, you win games because of defense. Which is what happened in San Francisco, and what happened here last year.
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:43 AM   #50
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It's not all about it.

But Alex Smith throws the ball down the field LESS THAN MATT CASSEL.

That's not gonna win games in this league.
11-5 says you are full of shit.
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:53 AM   #51
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11-5 says you are full of shit.
Defense won those games.

Long haul, Alex's style of play is not gonna pan out.
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:59 AM   #52
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Defense won those games.

Long haul, Alex's style of play is not gonna pan out.
What is his W/L record under Harbaugh and Reid?
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What is his W/L record under Harbaugh and Reid?
Thanks to the defense, it's very good.

What happened last year when our D faltered.

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Old 09-01-2014, 01:16 AM   #54
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And yet the guy still throws the ball down the field at a percentage that Alex can only dream of.

That's why he threw a goddamn laser down the field to beat the 49ers.

That's why he he was #3 in the goddamn NFL in YPC.

Alex was 30th.

See the difference?
WHO GIVES A **** ABOUT YPC?

You want to no how much that matters to Winning the higher Alex's YPC got last year the more we lost.
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If Bowe could have been half the receiver that Boldin was, he might have been able to get his foot inbounds on our last offensive play when Smith threw a perfect ball downfield to him instead of trying for a safer short throw for the conversion that all of you hate on him for.
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:23 AM   #57
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:03 AM   #58
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Complete teams win the SB, not just teams with QB's that have great stats. Alex can win the big one being a guy that is smart and limits turnovers but it also can be a reason we don't win with him. He does play it too safe at times.
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Hey man. Maybe if he coulda uncorked one like Flacco he woulda won.

Some QBs can win shootouts, some can't.

Just a fact of life.
Do I need to go back and quote your posts praising Alex after the playoff game again? I've said this before, but you ar the biggest flip-flopping bitch on this board. I'm getting sick and tired of you and a few other posters trolling every ****ing thread with this "Alex Smith sucks" bullshit.
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