We just might get a trade down yet.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by RNR

This would be the smartest move in my opinion. I am hoping the fins do this with Oakland. Outside of this place most view Geno Smith as a reach who could take a Dan Marino type slide on draft day. He could end up sitting there at a much better value if the Chiefs make this trade~

Too many teams in the top 10 that desperately need something at QB for him to slide that far.

Arizona would be stupid to pass on him. They have Palmer to hold the fort for a couple years while they bring Smith up to speed.

Even if they were stupid enough to pass on him the Bills would be even bigger morons to say "Kolb's got this!"

Then you have long shots like the Jaguars and Jets that could take him.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Too many teams in the top 10 that desperately need something at QB for him to slide that far.

Arizona would be stupid to pass on him. They have Palmer to hold the fort for a couple years while they bring Smith up to speed.

Even if they were stupid enough to pass on him the Bills would be even bigger morons to say "Kolb's got this!"

Then you have long shots like the Jaguars and Jets that could take him.

Look at the teams that needed QBs that made moves for less than special QBs the Chiefs included. Outside of this place nobody is raving about Smith. This place has gone over the deep end with this kid. He may pan out who knows. That said the love fest going on here is strange~

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by RNR

Look at the teams that needed QBs that made moves for less than special QBs the Chiefs included. Outside of this place nobody is raving about Smith. This place has gone over the deep end with this kid. He may pan out who knows. That said the love fest going on here is strange~

You mean like Christian Ponder, Jake Locker, Ryan Tannehill and Brandon Weeden?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RNR

Look at the teams that needed QBs that made moves for less than special QBs the Chiefs included.

So what you're saying is Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, and Jason Campbell = dealbreakers?

Uhhh ooookay

[RNR]

Originally Posted by SNR

So what you're saying is Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, and Jason Campbell = dealbreakers?

Uhhh ooookay

What I am saying is this place has gone ape shit over a guy most are luke warm about. I have read predictions he could slide to the 20s. Hey you guys might be right about the kid who knows. Oakland is sitting at 3 and I will be extremely disappointed if they take him. It has taken two off seasons to dig out of the crap Davis pulled. They will most likely have a good pick next year with close to 70 mil in cap space. I would rather they take their chances on a QB next year~

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RNR

What I am saying is this place has gone ape shit over a guy most are luke warm about. I have read predictions he could slide to the 20s. Hey you guys might be right about the kid who knows. Oakland is sitting at 3 and I will be extremely disappointed if they take him. It has taken two off seasons to dig out of the crap Davis pulled. They will most likely have a good pick next year with close to 70 mil in cap space. I would rather they take their chances on a QB next year~

You guys are digging out of Davis's crap because he traded two high draft picks for Carson ****ing Palmer and gave him a bunch of money. Not because you drafted another Jamarcus Russell.

If this CBA were around when Russell busted out, Oakland fans would do a lot less bitching about the pick.

I agree that the time might not be right for your team, since you're going to be starting some pretty stinky shit for a year or two. But this isn't about Geno. It's about the "moves" that teams have made regarding QBs in the offseason that don't mean jack ****ing shit when it comes to the draft

[RNR]

Originally Posted by SNR

You guys are digging out of Davis's crap because he traded two high draft picks for Carson ****ing Palmer and gave him a bunch of money. Not because you drafted another Jamarcus Russell.

If this CBA were around when Russell busted out, Oakland fans would do a lot less bitching about the pick.

I agree that the time might not be right for your team, since you're going to be starting some pretty stinky shit for a year or two. But this isn't about Geno. It's about the "moves" that teams have made regarding QBs in the offseason that don't mean jack ****ing shit when it comes to the draft

Look I know you pushed all in with this guy. I am not invested in this enough to care. I will point out clearly what you think about Smith don't mean jack****ingshit to the Chiefs or any other NFL team. Clearly several people who scout for a living disagree with you~

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RNR

Look I know you pushed all in with this guy. I am not invested in this enough to care. I will point out clearly what you think about Smith don't mean jack****ingshit to the Chiefs or any other NFL team. Clearly several people who scout for a living disagree with you~

No, YOU don't get it.

I didn't bring up Geno Smith. You did. I never intended to talk about him, either. He's not in this discussion.

I'm talking about what the Bills, Raiders, Cardinals, and Browns think of Kolb, Flynn, Palmer, and Campbell respectively.

I'll betcha $10 and a bag of doughnuts they don't give a shit about those guys, even if they start them for at least one season at QB.

They have no bearing whatsoever on how the QBs will fall in this draft.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by RNR

Look at the teams that needed QBs that made moves for less than special QBs the Chiefs included. Outside of this place nobody is raving about Smith. This place has gone over the deep end with this kid. He may pan out who knows. That said the love fest going on here is strange~

I think even there, it's more of a 'I just want them to do it once, it's been too long' and 'everybody sucks in this draft and a QB is what we NEED' thing than a love fest at this point.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

'everybody sucks in this draft and a QB is what we NEED'

That's a good enough reason to draft a QB at 1. And it's far from the only reason.

How will we ever win a Super Bowl without a Luke Joeckel?????

Said no one ever.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think even there, it's more of a 'I just want them to do it once, it's been too long' and 'everybody sucks in this draft and a QB is what we NEED' thing than a love fest at this point.

You guys have some solid players in place. I think it would be silly for them to spend this pick on Smith. I will go on record saying KC might not only win 10 games but could win the west outright~

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by RNR

You guys have some solid players in place. I think it would be silly for them to spend this pick on Smith. I will go on record saying KC might not only win 10 games but could win the west outright~

This is Chief's Pessimism lounge. Don't ruin it for us.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Renegade

This is Chief's Pessimism lounge. Don't ruin it for us.

That teams problems were coaching and QB. Both have been upgraded. Trust me I hope I am wrong~

[Jerm]

If the Jets trade Sanchez to the Bucs and gain an extra 1st rounder in a Revis trade, you gotta think that's your best option for a trade down.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think even there, it's more of a 'I just want them to do it once, it's been too long' and 'everybody sucks in this draft and a QB is what we NEED' thing than a love fest at this point.

That's probably a misperception. A lot of us have been high on the guy for months and think he could be really good at the next level.