Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

If Luck or RG3 had been there, I can assure the Chiefs would've drafted them.

Keep telling yourself that.

The more likely scenario is that we take the Rams approach and trade the pick to other teams.

[Rasputin]

What are all the excuses next year to not draft QBotf in the first round or two?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

What are all the excuses next year to not draft QBotf in the first round or two?

the same ones you hear every year

"not good enough for Chiefs"
"too risky"
"wait till next year"

- marcellus since 1983

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

What are all the excuses next year to not draft QBotf in the first round or two?

We need more linemen.

[RippedmyFlesh]

I wanted him and thought he would go top 10 I was way off. If his knock is just between his ears it's possible that can be corrected.Even his critics would have to admit he has the physical tools to thrive. You can't fix physical limitations but there is at least a chance you could fix a maturity issue. So who would be harder to "fix" Geno or Bray? And what's the upside of the 2 if both were fixed so to speak?

[RippedmyFlesh]

In 2008 I wanted atl to take dorsey. I saw herm talking to Ryan on tv and thought maybe this was it. So close.

[cdcox]

I think the point here is that QB is a position where you want the guy to eat, breathe, sleep, and shit football. That's the way Manning and Brady are.

So Geno gets the opportunity to interact with the best football minds he's ever been around. Nope, not interested. Need to text my friends back home.

Any way you spin it, if that is a true account, it's a clear negative. And isn't the same as wearing a tee shirt, or having a tattoo, or listening to rap.

Does this mean he is going to be a bust? No, but he'll probably need to eat some humble pie and change his attitude to be successful. That's probably a bigger change that fixing your footwork.

[BossChief]

There is NO QUESTION that if these reports are true they are a significant red flag.

The guy has a lot of work to do and if he is unable to put in quality work at areas of need, he is unlikely to ever be worth a high draft pick...but to act as if these reports are absolute fact and that they prove that Geno will be a bust is being disingenuous and that's where this discussion turned into an argument.

It's possible that his unwillingness to focus on crucial points is a reason he faltered against good defenses last year.

It's also possible this is all BS info distributed by the agent he just fired...which is more likely givent the timing of the report in relation to the firing.

[patteeu]

Kudos to the former Geno advocates who are willing to admit that the Chiefs might be better off having passed on the guy.

The die hards who can't come to grips with the situation and fantasize about the possibility that this is just a fabricated smear produced by Geno's enemies are laughable. Come in from the cold, guys.

Oh, and Nolan Nawrocki says hi.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Kudos to the former Geno advocates who are willing to admit that the Chiefs might be better off having passed on the guy.

The die hards who can't come to grips with the situation and fantasize about the possibility that this is just a fabricated smear produced by Geno's enemies are laughable. Come in from the cold, guys.

Oh, and Nolan Nawrocki says hi.

I was really high on Geno and wanted us to take him but now I believe there's just too much smoke for there not to be some kind of fire...the Bills take E.J. Manuel over him.....that is pretty damning IMO.

Conversely I believe Geno could commit murder tomorrow and there would be a gaggle of people on here justifying it....shit is nuts.

[okcchief]

As much as you love Geno you have to admit there is something every team in the NFL didn't like. The Vikings passed on him 3 times! Ponder and Cassel! Plus, look at the organization that picked him. I have always seen the talent, but there are obviously red flags. He may overcome it, and he may not. To me the story doesn't seem far fetched in the least. Most kids have some growing up to do. Some do, and some don't. However, there are plenty of unknowns in this draft.

[BossChief]

The hard thing about both Geno and EJs situations is that they are in the same division as Bill Billichick.

If I'm Marrone or Ryan, I probably sit the kid their rookie years.

JPB just keeps making my points for me and tries to stick his chest out afterwards.

"look at all these other Tedford quadrerbacksz lolz"

THATS THE POINT, SMART GUY. All of the quarterbacks that have won the superbowls recently have all had serious warts when they were prospects and trying to predict future success of a quarterback from college to the pros is very difficult to do.

Mike Mayock had Gabbert as his top quarterback and Colin Kaepernick tied with Ricky Stanzi as his fifth.

It happens.

We didnt draft the kid and I love Eric Fisher as a player and person and if we can get Albert locked up, our line should be awesome for a few years. Should be fun.

[RunKC]

I wish people would quit thinking that Geno is going to be great like the QB's that we passed over. Just because we pass over him doesn't mean he's going to turn into Rogers, Brees, Flacco, etc. There are other QB's we passed over like Jimmy Clausen too.

There's a reason the kid got scrutinized. He obviously wasn't a first round QB or he would have been drafted in the first.
The kid has had some serious con's on his resume and some of them just make you feel speechless.

If I'm wrong and he's a good QB who goes to a SB, I'll be happy to eat my crow, but I just don't see it happening. I want a first round QB as much as the next Chiefs fan, but I want one that has a good resume and good traits. One we can fully get behind.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I wish people would quit thinking that Geno is going to be great like the QB's that we passed over. Just because we pass over him doesn't mean he's going to turn into Rogers, Brees, Flacco, etc. There are other QB's we passed over like Jimmy Clausen too.

There's a reason the kid got scrutinized. He obviously wasn't a first round QB or he would have been drafted in the first.
The kid has had some serious con's on his resume and some of them just make you feel speechless.

If I'm wrong and he's a good QB who goes to a SB, I'll be happy to eat my crow, but I just don't see it happening. I want a first round QB as much as the next Chiefs fan, but I want one that has a good resume and good traits. One we can fully get behind.

I just wanted to find out and know what it feels like to draft a first round prospect. I can live with the disappointment that he doesn't turn out or struggles along the way. I just want hope and faith that this franchise has the BALLS to pick a guy on a chance that he could just turn out to be a special quarterback. The fact we had a chance to do so with the 1.1 pick and pick the best QB prospect would have made me get that hope and feeling like **** yeah now we can start building a team for the future and championships.

Nothing is going to change my mind that it is best to pick a QB from the draft than going after retreads like the Chiefs continue to do years after years.

I'm all ready disappointed we traded two 2s for Aids Smith. They took the hope away before the draft.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I just wanted to find out and know what it feels like to draft a first round prospect. I can live with the disappointment that he doesn't turn out or struggles along the way. I just want hope and faith that this franchise has the BALLS to pick a guy on a chance that he could just turn out to be a special quarterback. The fact we had a chance to do so with the 1.1 pick and pick the best QB prospect would have made me get that hope and feeling like **** yeah now we can start building a team for the future and championships.

Nothing is going to change my mind that it is best to pick a QB from the draft than going after retreads like the Chiefs continue to do years after years.

I'm all ready disappointed we traded two 2s for Aids Smith. They took the hope away before the draft.

EJ Manuel is a solid prospect, but I wouldn't take him (or Geno) with that pick. I'd encourage you to pretend that we drafted Bray at 1.1 (especially if the FO liked him better anyway, which, in this draft, is entirely possible.)