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Old 11-22-2012, 08:45 PM   #1
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I don't know how people are trying to downplay RG3's running. He leads the league in QB rushing. They run a ****ing read option. The guy is a lot closer to Vick than people want to admit. He's just a better passer.
RG3 is RG3

He's going to be great whether you can accept that or not. There is really no flaw to his game. He's the type that can put a team on his back and take them where they want to go.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:28 PM   #2
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RGIII

Was ranked 5th in QB rating with a 101 before today's game in which he had a 140 rating.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:29 PM   #3
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He's 6th in completion percentage at 67.1. Only 3 picks this year.

These are not the statistics of a running QB.

I think he's a great passing QB with great accuracy, intelligence and pocket presence who can also run better than a lot of running backs.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:29 PM   #4
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He's 6th in completion percentage at 67.1.
Has Vick ever been 16th?
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:39 PM   #5
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Has Vick ever been 16th?
Not sure, but his career percentage is only 56.3.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:40 PM   #6
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Not sure, but his career percentage is only 56.3.
That would suggest a loud and hardy **** no.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:46 PM   #7
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He's 6th in completion percentage at 67.1. Only 3 picks this year.

These are not the statistics of a running QB.

I think he's a great passing QB with great accuracy, intelligence and pocket presence who can also run better than a lot of running backs.
but he's black

he's just a Mike Vick

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:50 PM   #8
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but he's black

he's just a Mike Vick

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I really don't think anyone is being racist about it. But I think white guys feel like QB is one of the last bastions of sport that they can dominate. So there is probably some resistance from some people to players like RGIII.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:53 PM   #9
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those people are idiots and anything they say is irrelevant.

honestly, I think that race has a lot to do with it.
Bump! The ****ing white knight black people defender

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:43 PM   #10
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Steve young is the qb that comes to mind when I watch him. His ability to make a great throw while getting hit is unreal.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:49 PM   #11
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I was totally wrong about him it seems, and am fine saying so. More than anything, from all the interviews I've seen with him he seems like a really good person, and really intelligent.

My knock on him was that system he came out of, which I thought would handcap him at the pro level, but he looks great so far.

He did have one completely atrocious throw on the interception but the guy is nails and I've become a fan.

I still don't think we could have given up enough to move ahead of the Skins to get him. It would have been something ridiculous to do that, and no one is worth three first rounders. NO ONE.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:52 PM   #12
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I was totally wrong about him it seems, and am fine saying so. More than anything, from all the interviews I've seen with him he seems like a really good person, and really intelligent.

My knock on him was that system he came out of, which I thought would handcap him at the pro level, but he looks great so far.

He did have one completely atrocious throw on the interception but the guy is nails and I've become a fan.

I still don't think we could have given up enough to move ahead of the Skins to get him. It would have been something ridiculous to do that, and no one is worth three first rounders. NO ONE.
I'd give up 3 firsts for him. We pick busts with our first rounders anyway. We wouldn't be losing anything.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #13
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I'd give up 3 firsts for him. We pick busts with our first rounders anyway. We wouldn't be losing anything.
I don't know about you, but I'd give up Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Dontari Poe and Jonathan Baldwin for RG3. Those 4 first round draft picks are turds.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:48 PM   #14
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I was totally wrong about him it seems, and am fine saying so. More than anything, from all the interviews I've seen with him he seems like a really good person, and really intelligent.

My knock on him was that system he came out of, which I thought would handcap him at the pro level, but he looks great so far.

He did have one completely atrocious throw on the interception but the guy is nails and I've become a fan.

I still don't think we could have given up enough to move ahead of the Skins to get him. It would have been something ridiculous to do that, and no one is worth three first rounders. NO ONE.
So a Luck or RGIII are not worth a Berry, Baldwin, and Poe? 1st rounders are great and all if you get great players for them, but I think they are way too overrated. It is because of this that keeps teams from giving them up to trade up for elite players at elite positions.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:11 AM   #15
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So a Luck or RGIII are not worth a Berry, Baldwin, and Poe? 1st rounders are great and all if you get great players for them, but I think they are way too overrated. It is because of this that keeps teams from giving them up to trade up for elite players at elite positions.
I agree. Of course people are worth 3 1st rounders. You need a damn QB. Teams spend years trying to find one. Percentage of 1st rounders you hit on vs. percentage of time you win a SB with an average QB.
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