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Old 04-07-2013, 04:56 PM   #1
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None of that benefited McCluster.

He never played WR with Orton.
He had 10 receptions with Orton in 3 games, for 125 yards. He was a receiving option for sure. He rushed for 110 yards. That's 235 yards under Orton in 3 games. 210 in the final 2 games alone.

He wasn't miraculous under Orton. But we saw a hell of a lot more flashes from him than we saw in 2 years with Cassel.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:00 PM   #2
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He had 10 receptions with Orton in 3 games, for 125 yards. He was a receiving option for sure.
And all of that was out of the backfield.

49 of which came on one screen pass.

Another 21 of which came on a pass where the defender fell down.

You're reaching.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:10 PM   #3
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And all of that was out of the backfield.

49 of which came on one screen pass.

Another 21 of which came on a pass where the defender fell down.

You're reaching.
You're reaching when you try to act like yardage on a screen play is not yardage earned. Or that we should erase big plays from a yardage total.

235 yards in 3 games is pretty good. 210 yards in 2 games is very good. Even with the plays that didn't conveniently fit your definition of a real play, he ended up with 140 yards in the last 2 games. It's not great, I'm just saying that's at least flashing.
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You're reaching when you try to act like yardage on a screen play is not yardage earned. Or that we should erase big plays from a yardage total.

235 yards in 3 games is pretty good. 210 yards in 2 games is very good. Even with the plays that didn't conveniently fit your definition of a real play, he ended up with 140 yards in the last 2 games. It's not great, I'm just saying that's at least flashing.
That's great, is he playing RB ever again? No. Now GTFO.
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That's great, is he playing RB ever again? No. Now GTFO.
Yes, he will. He is going to be playing the same role as you saw in Weis' offense. I can guarantee he'll get looks at RB, as a motion option in the backfield, or as a slot receiver. He has not been bad, by the way, as a running back other than fumble issues. He has been terrible as a receiver and returner (and as I've said... if he doesn't develop as a receiver, I don't think there's any use for him).
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Yes, he will. He is going to be playing the same role as you saw in Weis' offense. I can guarantee he'll get looks at RB, as a motion option in the backfield, or as a slot receiver. He has not been bad, by the way, as a running back other than fumble issues. He has been terrible as a receiver and returner (and as I've said... if he doesn't develop as a receiver, I don't think there's any use for him).
As a RB he was useless, too. A RB who can't forced missed tackles is useless.
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As a RB he was useless, too. A RB who can't forced missed tackles is useless.
JFC. When he was primarily a RB in 2011, he had a 4.5 per carry average on 114 rushes. Which is not bad given that he's a small guy going against defenses that had no respect for the passing game.

It isn't great. Claiming he was useless as a RB is just typical baseless hate.
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