Let's talk about "true fans"

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm pretty sure that Reid sees Alex Smith as his prototype for running the Edwards West Coast system. Very smart, very accurate in the intermediary range, doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands and is athletic enough to keep the defenses honest if he needs to pull the ball down and take off.

This may sound a bit crazy, but I firmly believe that Alex Smith is a better fit/better QB for running Andy's offense than Donovan McNabb and I think that's what Reid believes as well. I think he believes that with Smith and the roster as it stands can win and win a lot right now.

I think that if this team buys into what Reid wants them to do and Sutton can get even 20% more out of the defense that they gave last season under Crennel, this team wins the AFC West and a first round playoff game this season with a shot at more.

Like I said earlier 11-5, AFC West Champs and they lose to the Texans in the AFC Championship game in 2013.

Well, in the 6 seasons from 2007 through 2012, it's taken them an average of 2.5 seasons to reach 12 wins... so yeah, maybe a bit crazy.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm pretty sure that Reid sees Alex Smith as his prototype for running the Edwards West Coast system. Very smart, very accurate in the intermediary range, doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands and is athletic enough to keep the defenses honest if he needs to pull the ball down and take off.

This may sound a bit crazy, but I firmly believe that Alex Smith is a better fit/better QB for running Andy's offense than Donovan McNabb and I think that's what Reid believes as well. I think he believes that with Smith and the roster as it stands can win and win a lot right now.

I think that if this team buys into what Reid wants them to do and Sutton can get even 20% more out of the defense that they gave last season under Crennel, this team wins the AFC West and a first round playoff game this season with a shot at more.

Like I said earlier 11-5, AFC West Champs and they lose to the Texans in the AFC Championship game in 2013.

What you're smoking. Pass me some.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Pablo

You watched your team play a historically awful season; then trade for a lame stopgap QB and draft a RT No. 1 overall.

If that gets you hard, then so be it.

I think the hope is a top 10 HC with 6 pro bowl players.

Good thing I'm ED

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'm excited for this season. Best coach in the division, a talented roster, and a QB that won't give games away. ****, they beat multiple playoff teams last year with even Alex at QB including Denver, Indy, and Baltimore at home.

Still, i hated the Fisher pick and still do

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by PGM

I'm excited for this season. Best coach in the division, a talented roster, and a QB that won't give games away. ****, they beat multiple playoff teams last year with even Alex at QB including Denver, Indy, and Baltimore at home.

Still, i hated the Fisher pick and still do

This, although I'm being very reserved in my excitement. If things go bad, it wont hurt so bad

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Flachief58

This, although I'm being very reserved in my excitement. If things go bad, it wont hurt so bad

Eh, they don't win the blame falls to number 11.

[FlaChief58]

If Smith can manage to keep the TOs down & sustain drives, that should win us a few games, then add the MASSIVE improvement in coaching and I see us somewhere between 6-10 wins and possibly competing for a wildcard spot.

Judging by what the players are saying and their body language in their interviews, they all seem genuinely excited about the direction the team is taking. That makes my little man wiggle, but I'm going to wait till they start winning before I go full on homer again.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Team had no confidence in the Pioli, Herm eras.

[Rausch]

I'm tired of being an average Joe that points out clearly stupid moves but we keep making these stupid moves.

"You're not an NFL GM or HC. You think you know better?"

Yes.

Flat out, bold as can be, YES. YES.

There are moves a team can make that are so ****ing stupid the guy selling free programs outside the stadium could catch them.

We make them every year.

Every year we're that team that gets drunk off the one day performance at the combine and drafts a guy WAAAAAAAAAAY above his worth.

Poe. Jackson. Baldwin.

It's knowing exactly what they're going to do (overvalue a player of need,) they do it, and it so sickening and obvious you want to punch a Nun.

I wouldn't claim to know more than the average NFL scout - what I'm saying is our 1st round draft picks look worse than if they would have followed the opinions of the average fan...

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm tired of being an average Joe that points out clearly stupid moves but we keep making these stupid moves.

"You're not an NFL GM or HC. You think you know better?"

Yes.

Flat out, bold as can be, YES. YES.

There are moves a team can make that are so ****ing stupid the guy selling free programs outside the stadium could catch them.

We make them every year.

Every year we're that team that gets drunk off the one day performance at the combine and drafts a guy WAAAAAAAAAAY above his worth.

Poe. Jackson. Baldwin.

It's knowing exactly what they're going to do (overvalue a player of need,) they do it, and it so sickening and obvious you want to punch a Nun.

I wouldn't claim to know more than the average NFL scout - what I'm saying is our 1st round draft picks look worse than if they would have followed the opinions of the average fan...

You'd like to think that Poe, Jackson and Baldwin were horrible overdrafts, but, in all honesty, they weren't. All three players were pretty well respected leading up to the draft and while they may have went from a few to ten spots earlier than a lot of people though, those picks weren't complete left field, head scratchers.

They were absolutely viable picks, especially considering the Chiefs roster at the time.

- Jackson was absolutely necessary as we were switching to a 34 defense and there wasn't a single legitimate 34 end on the roster at the time. His height, weight and length are as damn near prototype for the five tech position as you can find. The problem that Jackson has had is that he isn't Richard Seymour, which most people around here think he should be - which isn't going to be the case regardless of where he was picked in the draft.

- When we selected Baldwin, our receiving corps was virtually nil. There was Bowe and that was literally about it. Nada. Zilch. And Baldwin, while not the most polished route runner and somewhat lazy in college, had a lot of really incredible circus catch tape and his measurables were simply off the charts. Maybe the best I've ever seen from a wide receiver prospect:

6'4"
230 lbs.
40: 4.5 seconds
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical: 42"
Broad: 129"

Those are insanity sauce level numbers, and to go along with his strong hands and run after the catch ability, he's an easy pick for the Chiefs at that time.

Poe, like Baldwin, was a combine freak whose numbers were absolutely astounding for a man of his size. Add to it that the only legitimate nose tackle on the roster was Jerrell Powe, who was just coming off an non-existent off-season rookie season where he didn't see any significant playing time behind Kelly Gregg. And as the NT in a 34 is the absolute anchor for that entire defense, I'm sure that Crennel and Pioli had visions of Vince Wilfork dancing in their heads when they saw Dontari Poe. Another viable pick for the team considering their roster and scheme.

The real question about these three guys is that the only coach that they've known is Crennel, who, at this point, should be considered one of, if not the worst NFL head coach of the 21st century. His record speaks for itself. (Yes, Jackson had Haley as his head coach initially, but Crennel was his defensive coordinator.)

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You'd like to think that Poe, Jackson and Baldwin were horrible overdrafts, but, in all honesty, they weren't.

They were first round draft picks that have accomplished NOTHING.

NOTHING.

NOT - A - THING.

Busts.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

All three players were pretty well respected leading up to the draft and while they may have went from a few to ten spots earlier than a lot of people though, those picks weren't complete left field, head scratchers.

Not a single **** is given.

They were overvalued by our FO/HC due to their athletic ability/measurables and produced nothing.

BUST.

Wasted pick.

[BigMeatballDave]

Hope is a dangerous thing?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TrueFanDave

Hope is a dangerous thing?

You haven't been beaten with the fail stick enough to learn your lesson, huh?

[keg in kc]

Saccopoo has rationalized himself right back into insanity. What a shame, he was almost coherent during draft season.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Saccopoo has rationalized himself right back into insanity. What a shame, he was almost coherent during draft season.

Sac is jacking off because Reid is BYU guy, Alex Smith is a Utah Ute, Sean Smith is a Utah Ute, and they signed Matt Reynolds who is a BYU guy.