Soooooo... Dorsey is a butt****ing moron, right?

[RealSNR]

All these CBs available at the top of the 2nd round.

The 33rd and 35th overall picks.

He takes Denzel Ward at #4 overall.

Nice ****ing job, you prick. Oh, and by the way, YOU DRAFTED BAKER MAYFIELD #1 OVERALL YOU CHOAD.

I'm beginning to think Eric Fisher wasn't just "There wasn't anybody good!" It was just Dorsey trying to be smarter than everybody else.

Haven't seen Veach make any draft picks yet, but knocking on wood, he's gotta be better than Dorsey, right?

[BryanBusby]

You cared enough to post about it, apparently.

[nicksdad]

i apologize if i was disrespectful. but respectfully take a closer look at 1989-1993. it is way more misses than hits. d thomas at 4 overall . but a lot of dreck . go another two to three forward and he had drafts where he got ZERO players. we can agree to disagree.

[Hoover]

Dorsey's selection of Mayfield makes me think that he was also a Mahomes guy.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by staylor26

This just isn’t true.

I really like Chubb, and he’s going to be a damn good player, but he doesn’t have elite pass rusher upside. Just look at his very poor 3 cone.

He’ll be a great run defender and a solid pass rusher.

I agree I don't care what anyone says he is a luxury for them they needed a corner. They should have traded down a bit got more picks and a starting corner. **** chubb Pat will evade him and hit the guy who's wide open down field cause they didn't get a starting CB.

[kccrow]

I'm still really trying to find what set Baker Mayfield apart from Darnold and Rosen in Dorsey's eyes. It just doesn't make sense to me. I like Mayfield, for the most part, but I don't think he could convince me that he's better than those other two. The Cardinals got a steal in Rosen IMO. If they protect that kid early while they beef him up, kid is gonna be lights out. I think Darnold has a shitload more promise than Mayfield as well. You teach him how to protect the ball on the move (just like I hope Mahomes has learned), he's checks the rest of the boxes. I dunno, Mayfield doesn't have the zip or the size and not having either could be trouble.

I thought the Ward pick was excellent. Easily the best pure CB in the draft at a huge position of need for them and he comes from a school that churns out excellent corners. I don't know what the bitch would ever be there from Browns' fans unless they are straight up idiots. They have Ogbah, who is good, and Garrett, who could be phenomenal. They didn't need Chubb, period.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by nicksdad

i have been a fan this squad for almost fifty years and i don't recall anyone we have ever had who was a better drafter than Dorsey. a nightmare on contract issues but a very good drafter. of course, if you want to post only his defensive picks and not the picks on offense you can create an argument ,although a misleading one. of course another way to make a misleading argument is to decide retroactively , and without any evidence, that reid/veach are somehow responsible for all of the good dorsey picks, but that somehow dorsey was miraculously in charge of the failed picks. finally , if he is "bad" because his picks left Chubb for the Donks i would suggest that he should not be making his selections with the Chiefs , or us , their fanbase in mind. we dont have to hate everyone who leaves

In five years, Dorsey draft two adequate starters on defense (and one is no longer with the team) and two decent role players. Two! It's a problem that is rearing its ugly head now on our defense.

I don't think Dorsey "sucked ass" and he undeniably drafted some great offensive players but when you combine his inability to draft defense with the terrible contracts he gave out, you can see why some don't think he was all that.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I thought the Ward pick was excellent. Easily the best pure CB in the draft at a huge position of need for them and he comes from a school that churns out excellent corners. I don't know what the bitch would ever be there from Browns' fans unless they are straight up idiots. They have Ogbah, who is good, and Garrett, who could be phenomenal. They didn't need Chubb, period.

I was worried denver would get ward was happy he didn't go to them. I was watching with my brother a Brown's fan. He wanted Darnold but his attitude is wait and see instead of tearing down the house because of the picks. He also wanted Chubb but feels ward fits a more pressing need.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Bradley Chubb is now a Bronco. That's why he's a prick.

****ing asshole probably did it on purpose to get back at KC.

My thoughts.

[jjchieffan]

I can see both sides of the Peterson vs Dorsey argument. But when it comes to Peterson, I always wonder how much of his drafting was really him. Think about this. When Marty(a defensive minded coach) was the coach, Peterson drafted very well on the defensive side of the ball. The offense, aside from Shields, not so much. Then Marty leaves, Gunther is there 2 years, then Vermeil(an offensive minded coach) becomes coach. Now, suddenly, Carl can't draft a good defensive player to save his life. I think that Marty was the one that deserved the credit for the good drafting in those years. And maybe we had the same situation with Dorsey and Reid. How much of our drafting was really Dorsey, and how much of it was Reid? I guess that we'll figure that out over the coming years. If the Chiefs continue to draft similarly to the past 5 years, then it was probably mostly Reid. If Dorsey builds up the Browns roster and the Chiefs continue to draft well, then maybe it was both of them.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm still really trying to find what set Baker Mayfield apart from Darnold and Rosen in Dorsey's eyes. It just doesn't make sense to me. I like Mayfield, for the most part, but I don't think he could convince me that he's better than those other two. The Cardinals got a steal in Rosen IMO. If they protect that kid early while they beef him up, kid is gonna be lights out. I think Darnold has a shitload more promise than Mayfield as well. You teach him how to protect the ball on the move (just like I hope Mahomes has learned), he's checks the rest of the boxes. I dunno, Mayfield doesn't have the zip or the size and not having either could be trouble.

I thought the Ward pick was excellent. Easily the best pure CB in the draft at a huge position of need for them and he comes from a school that churns out excellent corners. I don't know what the bitch would ever be there from Browns' fans unless they are straight up idiots. They have Ogbah, who is good, and Garrett, who could be phenomenal. They didn't need Chubb, period.

Here's what a scout said about Darnold:
“You can have him,” the NFC personnel man concluded within the group. “Loopy motion. Bad face. Overrated.”


Sounds harsh. I know it's one game, but I get the "bad face" comment from the OSU bowl game. I commented before that it was one of the most bizarre 4th quarters I've seen from a QB. He was emotionless and not in a good way. They had a chance to come back in the end and the guy had the urgency of a sloth. I don't think it has to do with Mayfield being that much better than the others. I think it has a lot more to do with Darnold and Rosen being a lot more "meh" than teams want.

[BryanBusby]

Bad face.

Lmao

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Here's what a scout said about Darnold:
“You can have him,” the NFC personnel man concluded within the group. “Loopy motion. Bad face. Overrated.”


Sounds harsh. I know it's one game, but I get the "bad face" comment from the OSU bowl game. I commented before that it was one of the most bizarre 4th quarters I've seen from a QB. He was emotionless and not in a good way. They had a chance to come back in the end and the guy had the urgency of a sloth. I don't think it has to do with Mayfield being that much better than the others. I think it has a lot more to do with Darnold and Rosen being a lot more "meh" than teams want.

It's really not that great of a QB class. The league is just so starved for QB talent.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Bradley Chubb is now a Bronco. That's why he's a prick.

****ing asshole probably did it on purpose to get back at KC.

I don't think he did it on purpose. But just so you know I've been lurking, my first thought after the Ward pick was "because Chiefs".

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's really not that great of a QB class. The league is just so starved for QB talent.

I thought the same. Wouldnt be surprised if they all bust out. I am not even sure if Mayfield's ceiling is Alex Smith

[rico]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Here's what a scout said about Darnold:
“You can have him,” the NFC personnel man concluded within the group. “Loopy motion. Bad face. Overrated.”


Sounds harsh. I know it's one game, but I get the "bad face" comment from the OSU bowl game. I commented before that it was one of the most bizarre 4th quarters I've seen from a QB. He was emotionless and not in a good way. They had a chance to come back in the end and the guy had the urgency of a sloth. I don't think it has to do with Mayfield being that much better than the others. I think it has a lot more to do with Darnold and Rosen being a lot more "meh" than teams want.

He does have a very bad, smashed in face. His face looks like one of those Stretch Armstrong dolls after smashing it in the face with a frying pan.