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Old 11-21-2012, 06:13 PM   #1
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Not like Carl was a good GM Folks.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:14 PM   #2
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Not like Carl was a good GM Folks.
He was the best GM to ever GM compared to the clown car driver we have now.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:25 PM   #3
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:07 PM   #4
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Not like Carl was a good GM Folks.
Yes, actually he was. He was a really ****ing good GM, but he should have been fired after the '98 season.

Pioli isn't worthy of drying the sweat from '93 Peterson's nut sack.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:14 PM   #5
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Yes, actually he was. He was a really ****ing good GM, but he should have been fired after the '98 season.

Pioli isn't worthy of drying the sweat from '93 Peterson's nut sack.
No GM can be known as "really ****ing good" without drafting a first round quarterback in 20 years.

Sorry.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:16 PM   #6
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No GM can be known as "really ****ing good" without drafting a first round quarterback in 20 years.

Sorry.
Yeah, well this is wrong.

Peterson built Arrowhead, drafted a few HOFers, and turned the Chiefs into one of the best franchises of the 90s; he was really ****ing good at his job, but he needed to leave after '98.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:45 PM   #7
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Yeah, well this is wrong.

Peterson built Arrowhead, drafted a few HOFers, and turned the Chiefs into one of the best franchises of the 90s; he was really ****ing good at his job, but he needed to leave after '98.
He hired Marty and drafted DT...4 years later, he drafted a HOF guard...4 years later he traded up from 18th to 13th overall to draft a HOF TE.

Credit given where due.

Calling him a great GM for that isnt true when he only won 3 playoff games in 20 years and never drafted a franchise quarterback the whole time.

Agree to disagree.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:54 PM   #8
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He hired Marty and drafted DT...4 years later, he drafted a HOF guard...4 years later he traded up from 18th to 13th overall to draft a HOF TE.

Credit given where due.

Calling him a great GM for that isnt true when he only won 3 playoff games in 20 years and never drafted a franchise quarterback the whole time.

Agree to disagree.
I doubt many would say we didn't win more playoff games or even a SB due to talent so you cant blame it all on CP.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:57 PM   #9
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I doubt many would say we didn't win more playoff games or even a SB due to talent so you cant blame it all on CP.
We didn't win those games because we didn't have a QB and other teams did.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:37 PM   #10
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He hired Marty and drafted DT...4 years later, he drafted a HOF guard...4 years later he traded up from 18th to 13th overall to draft a HOF TE.

Credit given where due.

Calling him a great GM for that isnt true when he only won 3 playoff games in 20 years and never drafted a franchise quarterback the whole time.

Agree to disagree.
You are probably too young to remember but before Carl arrived, Kansas City didn't give two shits about the Chiefs, let alone football in general.

They were blacked out for years on end. No one went to the stadium. They went 17 years between playoff appearance, then fired the coach that got them there. They were a national and local joke.

Peterson immediately gave creditability to the Chiefs, not only nationally but more importantly, locally. He hired Marty Schottenheimer, drafted Thomas and began not only building a very good team but within a year, made Arrowhead THE Kansas City destination.

All of the sudden, the Chiefs had a weekly TV show. Radio shows popped up all over town. The Chiefs re-energized the city.

It was an extremely exciting time. People lived and died with the Chiefs. If they won, everyone was happy and ecstatic on Mondays. If they loss, there was an air of depression that could be felt citywide.

No one ever discussed Carl being a failure in Year Four.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:46 PM   #11
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You are probably too young to remember but before Carl arrived, Kansas City didn't give two shits about the Chiefs, let alone football in general.

They were blacked out for years on end. No one went to the stadium. They went 17 years between playoff appearance, then fired the coach that got them there. They were a national and local joke.

Peterson immediately gave creditability to the Chiefs, not only nationally but more importantly, locally. He hired Marty Schottenheimer, drafted Thomas and began not only building a very good team but within a year, made Arrowhead THE Kansas City destination.

All of the sudden, the Chiefs had a weekly TV show. Radio shows popped up all over town. The Chiefs re-energized the city.

It was an extremely exciting time. People lived and died with the Chiefs. If they won, everyone was happy and ecstatic on Mondays. If they loss, there was an air of depression that could be felt citywide.

No one ever discussed Carl being a failure in Year Four.
. No shit. People weren't flying banners over Arrowhead after the Chiefs advanced to the AFC Championship Game?

Carl and Marty literally built the Arrowhead experience, and it's amazing the amount of revisionist history that has vilified every aspect of Peterson's tenure. Yes, the end was really bad. But that's generally how long-term relationships end.

The beginning, though, was nothing short of fantastic, and it's exactly what the organization and city needed.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:00 PM   #12
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Yeah, well this is wrong.

Peterson built Arrowhead, drafted a few HOFers, and turned the Chiefs into one of the best franchises of the 90s; he was really ****ing good at his job, but he needed to leave after '98.
I didn't have a problem with him until he picked Grbac over Gannon and started churning out the Rufus columns. He was great until the NFL came up with newfangled rules like free agency and salary cap.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:53 PM   #13
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I didn't have a problem with him until he picked Grbac over Gannon and started churning out the Rufus columns. He was great until the NFL came up with newfangled rules like free agency and salary cap.
Those Rufus columns were some hilarious propaganda spin.

I know the rumor was the Carl was behind that...but was he really? Was there really ever someone named Rufus Dawes that wrote for the Chiefs?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:05 PM   #14
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:37 PM   #15
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No. This is as bad as the push to have Marty come back.

We need to remember there were days when we all were calling for their heads just as much as we are Pioli and RAC now. Short memories.
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