Chiefs SI : Chiefs have a problem and his name is Dwayne Bowe - Page 3

**pr_capone** · 06:53 PM

His performance so far this season has been underwhelming. He is in a position to clock in his worst performance in the NFL so far and is projecting to have 54 receptions for 586 yards w/6TD.

Is his problem that defenses are keying in on him... or is it that, as suggested by Greg Bedard, that Bowe has lost a step and is no longer a top tier WR?

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/greg-b...preview-notes/

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6. The Chiefs will win a lot of games with their current formula: good defense that takes the ball away (15 times so far) and an offense that doesn’t turn it over (just five) for an NFL-leading plus-10 in giveaways/takeaways. But to beat the good teams, they’re going to have to start stretching the field. Defenses know QB Alex Smith is overly conservative, so they’re dropping a safety down and playing a lot of man. The Chiefs have a big problem with receiver Dwayne Bowe. Not sure what has happened to him, but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-11-2013, 07:19 PM

If you were to actually watch Bowe on film you'd realize he's open way more than you think, just like Baldwin was. Just don't have a QB looking to go that way. You know , like 15 yards down field.

vailpass · 10-11-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

with Flowers contract should he be able to consistently lock down good WRs?

with Tyson Jacksons contract should he be able to beat 1 on 1 offensive lineman like a drum?

with Dunta Robinsons contract should he not get beat out by a UDFA rookie?

with Anthony Fasanos contract should he not see the field sometime this decade?

With Eric Fishers contract should he not ****ing block one guy without looking like a dizzy clown when he gets stood up?

My point is there are WAY worse on this team than Bowe not playing like their contract.

You know more than I do about these guys so I'm not qualified to argue...

BigRock · 10-11-2013, 07:19 PM

The disconnect between what people are saying about Bowe (he's lost a step, he looks like a slow tight end) and what people want to hear about Bowe (Everything's fine, Alex just won't throw him the ball!!!!1!!!111!!) is growing wider by the week.

**RealSNR** · 10-11-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

All due respect, but Bowe has never reached Fitz level...

I'm not talking about what Fitz did 4-5 years ago. I'm talking about what he does now.

Mojo Jojo · 10-11-2013, 07:20 PM

Bowe is the highest paid threat in the NFL...hey if it's what it takes to win.

vailpass · 10-11-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I'm not talking about what Fitz did 4-5 years ago. I'm talking about what he does now.

Fair. And having a qbthat can throw him open benefits a wr immensely...

mcaj22 · 10-11-2013, 07:21 PM

Bowe has a better avg than Larry Fitzgerald and Larry played with a hall of fame QB and Bowe played with some of the shittiest QBs the NFL has ever seen in the last decade.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 10-11-2013, 07:22 PM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...bowe-vs-titans

Great break down of Bowe.

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

The disconnect between what people are saying about Bowe (he's lost a step, he looks like a slow tight end) and what people want to hear about Bowe (Everything's fine, Alex just won't throw him the ball!!!!1!!!111!!) is growing wider by the week.

It can't be Bowes fault the only people you can blame is Alex Smith or Fisher No one else can ever be blamed

mcaj22 · 10-11-2013, 07:24 PM

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You know more than I do about these guys so I'm not qualified to argue...

no I don't. I'm just pointing out you can pick out almost any player on the team and ask if they are worth their contract for what they do or dont do.

A lot around here think Tamba should be cut in the offseason or have his cap reduced up until last weeks game. Everyone thinks hes lost a step, that was the offseason topic here. Is Tamba worth his contract? Many here dont think so. Is the Bowe the same? Maybe, but where else are we going to spend that money? On more offensive lineman that are inconsistent?

vailpass · 10-11-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

no I don't. I'm just pointing out you can pick out almost any player on the team and ask if they are worth their contract for what they do or dont do.

A lot around here think Tamba should be cut in the offseason or have his cap reduced up until last weeks game. Everyone thinks hes lost a step, that was the offseason topic here. Is Tamba worth his contract? Many here dont think so. Is the Bowe the same? Maybe, but where else are we going to spend that money? On more offensive lineman that are inconsistent?

Hear you. A 1 is a 1.

mcaj22 · 10-11-2013, 07:29 PM

i mean the Dolphins just paid Mike Wallace all that money and they are doing the exact same thing with him and their QB and his numbers are just as bad if not worse for being paid that much.

guys like Bowe and Wallace get teams bests CBs, get jammed the most, and they are basically being used to pull the coverage and open things up for others. I don't know why you would complain about that just because the guy wont get 1000 yards cause Matt Cassel or Tyler Thigpen or Damon Huard isnt forcing the ball directly at him in garbage time blowout loses anymore.

**RealSNR** · 10-11-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...bowe-vs-titans

Great break down of Bowe.

Like it a lot.

See, Mikey? I think if you took off your tinfoil hat and stopped blaming the world's problems on the Illuminati, Obama, and people who like Geno Smith, you'd be a much happier person, and you wouldn't look like such a giant jackass when talking about football.

Ace Gunner · 10-11-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

The disconnect between what people are saying about Bowe (he's lost a step, he looks like a slow tight end) and what people want to hear about Bowe (Everything's fine, Alex just won't throw him the ball!!!!1!!!111!!) is growing wider by the week.

tru dat and I am enjoying it. FTR when I was at the NYG Bowe is getting bumped hard at the snap and a safety was always over the top for Bowe. I mean always.

I wouldn't read too much into this article or any criticisms right now. whatever this offense is not doing, it is working to some degree. Bowe is drawing coverages. while at arrowhead, I watched it throughout the NYG game and I'm sure every other team is doin the same to Bowe.

He's bumped, covered, doubled -- all that. his routes are slow and it gives defenses cushion to stay c2 at least on his side of the field. No need to force the ball to him and really, it does open up the other side of the field.

vailpass · 10-11-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner

tru dat and I am enjoying it. FTR when I was at the NYG Bowe is getting bumped hard at the snap and a safety was always over the top for Bowe. I mean always.

I wouldn't read too much into this article or any criticisms right now. whatever this offense is not doing, it is working to some degree. Bowe is drawing coverages. while at arrowhead, I watched it throughout the NYG game and I'm sure every other team is doin the same to Bowe.

He's bumped, covered, doubled -- all that. his routes are slow and it gives defenses cushion to stay c2 at least on his side of the field. No need to force the ball to him and really, it does open up the other side of the field.

High paid 1s can come off the bump and run routes. I like Bowe and think he's a 1 but bumps are no excuse...

10-11-2013, 07:19 PM	#31
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1490477	If you were to actually watch Bowe on film you'd realize he's open way more than you think, just like Baldwin was. Just don't have a QB looking to go that way. You know , like 15 yards down field.
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BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3225412	The disconnect between what people are saying about Bowe (he's lost a step, he looks like a slow tight end) and what people want to hear about Bowe (Everything's fine, Alex just won't throw him the ball!!!!1!!!111!!) is growing wider by the week.
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10-11-2013, 07:21 PM	#37
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Bowe has a better avg than Larry Fitzgerald and Larry played with a hall of fame QB and Bowe played with some of the shittiest QBs the NFL has ever seen in the last decade.
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10-11-2013, 07:22 PM	#38
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3506009	http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...bowe-vs-titans Great break down of Bowe.
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10-11-2013, 07:29 PM	#42
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	i mean the Dolphins just paid Mike Wallace all that money and they are doing the exact same thing with him and their QB and his numbers are just as bad if not worse for being paid that much. guys like Bowe and Wallace get teams bests CBs, get jammed the most, and they are basically being used to pull the coverage and open things up for others. I don't know why you would complain about that just because the guy wont get 1000 yards cause Matt Cassel or Tyler Thigpen or Damon Huard isnt forcing the ball directly at him in garbage time blowout loses anymore.
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