NFL Draft Texas A&M LT Joeckel is coming out for draft

tyton75 · 01-08-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Good to see you posting tyton75, it has been a while.

What does the Heisman have to do with anything, anything at all? The Heisman is about winning College games, no matter how, not about who is the best pro prospect.

This team needs a QB with the God given talent that can be developed into an NFL franchise Qb, and it has been a very long time since one has worn a Chiefs uniform.

Pocket presence, pocket awareness, arm strength, intelligence, leadership, timing, size etc. in one player.

They have the first pick, and they need to pick the guy that most fits that criteria, and most on here think it is Geno Smith. I personally haven't watched enough of his play to have an accurate opinion on him, but I value the opinion of some of the dedicated College followers on her.

Bottom line, this team is out of time when it comes to getting a Qb to develop and they need to just do it.

I'm completely with you, the worry I have is that the best QB available isn't a franchise type QB(and I hope I'm wrong) but I just don't want them getting tunnel vision on one guy simply because he has QB in front of his name on the roster.

Hell, I would like us to take 2 QB's in the draft if the talent is there. If this kid is as good as I have heard, then it might be a worthwhile pick and then take QB with 2nd and 3rd round. And Obviously, I could be completely wrong too.

mr. tegu · 01-08-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I'm completely with you, the worry I have is that the best QB available isn't a franchise type QB(and I hope I'm wrong) but I just don't want them getting tunnel vision on one guy simply because he has QB in front of his name on the roster.

Hell, I would like us to take 2 QB's in the draft if the talent is there. If this kid is as good as I have heard, then it might be a worthwhile pick and then take QB with 2nd and 3rd round. And Obviously, I could be completely wrong too.

You are missing the point. You can't just write it off and say "simply because he has QB.." like that is some kind of non important factor. Our position of most desperate need is QB. The fact that we have the number one pick and our choice of the litter dictates we identify who we want and take him. Don't screw around! And yes, it IS because they have the Q and B in front of their name that we take whoever it turns out to be.

There will always be a worry as to whether a QB is a potential franchise guy. Outside of last year there has never been such little worry to that effect.

**HemiEd** · 01-08-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I'm completely with you, the worry I have is that the best QB available isn't a franchise type QB(and I hope I'm wrong) but I just don't want them getting tunnel vision on one guy simply because he has QB in front of his name on the roster.

Hell, I would like us to take 2 QB's in the draft if the talent is there. If this kid is as good as I have heard, then it might be a worthwhile pick and then take QB with 2nd and 3rd round. And Obviously, I could be completely wrong too.

See, that is where we disagree. I want them to draft a QB #1 this year no matter what. Then if it fails, do it again until they get one that can get them where they want to go.

Just look at the recent extremely high picks, #3 overall TJ, most would prefer to let him walk. #5 overall, Glen Dorsey, pretty much the same story, he hasn't fit.

To take two in the draft is a head scratcher for me, but it is a thought, the Skins were so committed that they did it.

Heck the Chiefs have one on the roster now that hasn't taken a regular season snap in three years on the team. Too many coaches worried more about their job more than the team.

Molitoth · 01-08-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I'm completely with you, the worry I have is that the best QB available isn't a franchise type QB(and I hope I'm wrong) but I just don't want them getting tunnel vision on one guy simply because he has QB in front of his name on the roster.

Hell, I would like us to take 2 QB's in the draft if the talent is there. If this kid is as good as I have heard, then it might be a worthwhile pick and then take QB with 2nd and 3rd round. And Obviously, I could be completely wrong too.

Instead of spending time arguing here and "hoping you are wrong", just go out to Youtube and you can pretty much watch all the games from the QB's in this draft.

For Geno Smith, you can watch every game this season, cut up into only his passing attempts... even the incompletions.

For Tyler Wilson there is plenty of film from 2011,2012 to see how much potential he has.

Plenty of video on Barkley as well.

Judge for yourself and quit listening to others.

duncan_idaho · 01-08-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Instead of spending time arguing here and "hoping you are wrong", just go out to Youtube and you can pretty much watch all the games from the QB's in this draft.

For Geno Smith, you can watch every game this season, cut up into only his passing attempts... even the incompletions.

For Tyler Wilson there is plenty of film from 2011,2012 to see how much potential he has.

Plenty of video on Barkley as well.

Judge for yourself and quit listening to others.

This is a great suggestion. I did this on Geno, Wilson, Barkley and Glennon.

It has placed me solidly in the Geno camp.

**RealSNR** · 01-08-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Instead of spending time arguing here and "hoping you are wrong", just go out to Youtube and you can pretty much watch all the games from the QB's in this draft.

For Geno Smith, you can watch every game this season, cut up into only his passing attempts... even the incompletions.

For Tyler Wilson there is plenty of film from 2011,2012 to see how much potential he has.

Plenty of video on Barkley as well.

Judge for yourself and quit listening to others.

Waaaaaahhh I did this and I didn't see any Andrew Lucks! Why does fate hate the Chiefs? Waaaaaaaaahhhh! /TEX

RunKC · 01-08-2013, 04:54 PM

I'm not advocating that we take an OT over QB, but this point needs to be said.

Duane Brown is much better in the LT ranks than Matt Schaub is at the QB position. The same thing applies for Joe Staley and either Niners QB.

Those were bad examples.

O.city · 01-08-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I'm not advocating that we take an OT over QB, but this point needs to be said.

Duane Brown is much better in the LT ranks than Matt Schaub is at the QB position. The same thing applies for Joe Staley and either Niners QB.

Those were bad examples.

Yet Brown wasn't hurt last year during the playoffs.

But yes, they are probably better. But it still doesn't matter.

I'm not sure why you are going to every length to argue against drafting a QB first overall?

I mean that's 95% going to happen at this point, it's just a matter of which one.

RunKC · 01-08-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Yet Brown wasn't hurt last year during the playoffs.

But yes, they are probably better. But it still doesn't matter.

I'm not sure why you are going to every length to argue against drafting a QB first overall?

I mean that's 95% going to happen at this point, it's just a matter of which one.

I actually used this to support us drafting a QB at 1.

Matt Schaub is clearly holding the Texans back and I don't think Kaepernick will outperform Aaron Rodgers.

Can you imagine if Peyton chose the 49ers over the Broncos? They might be 16-0 right now.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2089611	I'm not advocating that we take an OT over QB, but this point needs to be said. Duane Brown is much better in the LT ranks than Matt Schaub is at the QB position. The same thing applies for Joe Staley and either Niners QB. Those were bad examples.
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