Receiver, Cornerback, Right Tackle... Where Do They Rank For You?

[Easy 6]

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/4...chiefs-edition

I find it hard to argue with any of this, what about you?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

unless they set an nfl record for the most wr's drafted in the second round, there will be a guy there in the second just as talented as agholor.

perriman, smith, dorsett, dgb, funchess, hardy, lockett, mcbride, diggs, coates, conley, greene. even agholor himself may be there. this class is loaded with late first round-2nd round grade WR's thats why theres a new guy gaining steam as a new first round pick every week. first it was dgb, then dorsett, then smith, then perriman, now agholor. these guys are all very similar talents.

theres a pretty big drop off in talent level at cb, tackle, and other positions. Theres a huge drop off at te after max williams.

I don't agree. Personally, I think that Williams is being severely overrated around here and guys like Heuerman (who would fit this offense flawlessly and really compliment Kelce) would be a perfectly acceptable choice later in the draft.

id rather see us end up with and elite cb prospect like kevin johnson, and tre mcbride

or an elite tackle prospect like collins, and lockett

than to end up with agholor, and a project tackle like rob havenstein.

All day long.

[BossChief]

You guys are severely under rating this WR class.

The 2 guys I listen to in the media as far as knowledge of how players transition from college to the NFL and how they should be ranked in terms of draft value (Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock) have this WR draft class as having about 8 guys with a first round grade.

They also say this class is as good as last years.

If it really is that deep, it would be a little wasteful to draft one in the first if another need (at a shallower position) is available with a similar grade.

Another fact to consider is that Sean Smith will want big money and CB is a spot that players need need time to acclimate to the pro game and learn from vets how to be a pro. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a corner at 18 for those reasons, especially with our pass rush...a rookie corner with the ABILITY to become a shutdown guy would be a wise investment.

[O.city]

Devils advocate but if the wr class is that deep and good, why not take 2 of them?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't agree. Personally, I think that Williams is being severely overrated around here and guys like Heuerman (who would fit this offense flawlessly and really compliment Kelce) would be a perfectly acceptable choice later in the draft.



All day long.

I think we missed a big opportunity to sign Scott Chandler to fill the #2 TE spot.

He signed in NE for 2 years under 5m.

That would have been a great signing for us to pair with Kelce.

[The Franchise]

I would be just fine with BPA at #18 and then trading up in the 2nd round to grab a WR.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Put me in the 10% that doesn't believe an offensive lineman will be chosen in the first. Fisher, Grubbs, Kush and Fulton are set. Stephenson, Allen and Sherrod will battle for right tackle.

Fulton needs to be upgraded.

Slowest feet I've ever seen on a starting NFL guard. The guy was worked, a lot, last year because of it. Yeah, he was a rookie and all, but the reason he was starting was because the team basically had nothing behind him. McGlynn or Linkenbach? You saw what the results of that were throughout the whole season.

Fulton is a hard worker with power and a good base. But he's ****ing slow. Like really slow.

RG does need to be addressed.

If La'el Collins is at #18, you probably take him. He's potentially better at any of the offensive line positions than whatever else we currently have.

At the very least, this team should seriously consider John Miller with one of their third round picks.

But I agree with the others that there will be a very good receiving prospect in the second or third round and they'll also be able to get another very solid receiver with one of their fifth round picks. Like I posted previously, there are a number of receivers who I think fit this system exceptionally well who aren't necessarily the "first round" dude.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Devils advocate but if the wr class is that deep and good, why not take 2 of them?

Well, IMO I think we already have 3 guys that can play at WR and we need 2 more, so I wouldn't be opposed to that idea.

Maclin
Avant
Wilson

If we could draft a guy like DGB, Smith, Dorsett, Parker or Aghlor at 18 and then come back and draft another in the 2nd, I'd be game.

The defense is ready to go...time to add more explosive potential to the offense.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Fulton needs to be upgraded.

Slowest feet I've ever seen on a starting NFL guard. The guy was worked, a lot, last year because of it. Yeah, he was a rookie and all, but the reason he was starting was because the team basically had nothing behind him. McGlynn or Linkenbach? You saw what the results of that were throughout the whole season.

Fulton is a hard worker with power and a good base. But he's ****ing slow. Like really slow.

RG does need to be addressed.

If La'el Collins is at #18, you probably take him. He's potentially better at any of the offensive line positions than whatever else we currently have.

At the very least, this team should seriously consider John Miller with one of their third round picks.

But I agree with the others that there will be a very good receiving prospect in the second or third round and they'll also be able to get another very solid receiver with one of their fifth round picks. Like I posted previously, there are a number of receivers who I think fit this system exceptionally well who aren't necessarily the "first round" dude.

They did address RG. Fanaika ring any bells?

[The Franchise]

I'm not skipping out on a WR because of Avant.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

I would be just fine with BPA at #18 and then trading up in the 2nd round to grab a WR.

If we can move late rounders or a pick from next year to move up, I'm game.

I don't want them to touch our picks in RDS 1-4 unless it's to move up for a QB.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Devils advocate but if the wr class is that deep and good, why not take 2 of them?

They should.

I would.

McBride or Lockett or Greene early, then a Kenny Bell/Vince Mayle/Ty Montgomery guy later would be awesome.

And, like I said, I'd love to see them pick up Anderson, Smelter or Miller in FA as well.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

I'm not skipping out on a WR because of Avant.

Did anyone say they should?

IMO Avant and Maclin are perfect guys to help a pair of talented rookies get up to speed in Andy's offense while also being able to step in game 1 and produce.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

They did address RG. Fanaika ring any bells?

Thanks.

I just threw up in my mouth.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

They did address RG. Fanaika ring any bells?

Nope, not a one.

Fanaika is Fulton.

Fulton is Fanaika.

Big, slow, power dudes.

I know Dorsey loves that guy for his RG (he's brought that guy in every single year he's been here), but they aren't elite. Won't be elite. 40% type of player max.

That's not going to cut it for this QB. They need, roughly, 60%'ers across the entire line to ensure Smith's success. They don't have that right now.

I think Fisher will be that guy this season. Grubbs is. The rest of the line from C and over is a huge question mark. I have faith that they'll find a starting RT between Allen, Stephenson and Sherrod. Maybe even one of those guys slides into the RG position and upgrades it.

But as of right now, C, RG and RT are unknowns.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by O.city

Devils advocate but if the wr class is that deep and good, why not take 2 of them?

With 10 picks it would be a massive blunder if they didn't.