Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 107

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

GloryDayz · 11-05-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So let's say, hypothetically, Berry comes back for the Rams game. He gets beat deep on a play that seals the win for LA. What would be the feelings towards Berry?

I'd continue to think he's the ass he's grown into?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-05-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So let's say, hypothetically, Berry comes back for the Rams game. He gets beat deep on a play that seals the win for LA. What would be the feelings towards Berry?

His new name would be Dingle

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-05-2018, 05:31 PM

They could have amputated and given him one of those Oscar Pistorius blades and he'd be back by now.

FFS.

**Baby Lee** · 11-05-2018, 05:32 PM

Berry day to day
All hopes hinge on bony growth
Parker fell asleep.

chinaski · 11-05-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So let's say, hypothetically, Berry comes back for the Rams game. He gets beat deep on a play that seals the win for LA. What would be the feelings towards Berry?

Yeah, I'm sure I am not the only one that is worried he might not be the same. Seems kind of silly to 'save' a guy for the playoffs that hasn't played in 2 years. I say throw him in ASAP and knock off the rust.

GloryDayz · 11-05-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

Yeah, I'm sure I am not the only one that is worried he might not be the same. Seems kind of silly to 'save' a guy for the playoffs that hasn't played in 2 years. I say throw him in ASAP and knock off the rust.

I'm pretty sure the men (gladiators) who they want to bench so Mr. Haglund can play might ask to go head-to-head with him in practice before the team throws their support behind Mr. Vacation.

After this many years of riding pine, it might be a good idea to have him prove more than he knows how to put a uniform on.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-05-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I'm pretty sure the men (gladiators) who they want to bench so Mr. Haglund can play might ask to go head-to-head with him in practice before the team throws their support behind Mr. Vacation.

After this many years of riding pine, it might be a good idea to have him prove more than he knows how to put a uniform on.

"Oklahoma drill, 'payday', you and me. Now".

UChieffyBugger · 11-05-2018, 06:41 PM

Alright guys so the latest on Eric is that he has apparently made "serious strides" with his heel injury and they hope he is back "within a few weeks". Tom Pelissero, who was a reporter at the Browns game on Sunday, is the one who broke the news HERE. So I'd imagine he was probably told by one of the Chiefs staff before the game.

Sam Mellinger also said this today...

Quote:

The Chiefs are in an envied spot. They are the Super Bowl favorites, according to some metrics, and they are about to improve — a source close to the team said Justin Houston will likely play against the Cardinals, at least on a pitch count, with the idea of getting him to full strength for the Rams game. Additionally, the hope is that Eric Berry will return sometime this month.

LINK

So there is hope yall, no-matter how many times some folks try and say "he won't play again"

. I don't think "sources" would say a word if there wasn't a realistic chance of it happening.

htismaqe · 11-05-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

he has apparently made "serious strides" with his heel injury and they hope he is back "within a few weeks".

I'll take "Things the Chiefs said in September" for $500, Alex.

Sassy Squatch · 11-05-2018, 06:44 PM

"Hope". Get the **** out of here with that bullshit. You've been "hoping" he'll be back since week 4.

UChieffyBugger · 11-05-2018, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

"Hope". Get the **** out of here with that bullshit. You've been "hoping" he'll be back since week 4.

With an injury like that nothing can be one hundred percent certain. However, reports suggest he's made significant strides forward. Why not take it for what it is instead of

all the damn time? Why you so mad?

htismaqe · 11-05-2018, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

With an injury like that nothing can be one hundred percent certain. However, reports suggest he's made significant strides forward. Why not take it for what it is instead of

all the damn time? Why you so mad?

He's been taking significant strides forward since AUGUST.

Sassy Squatch · 11-05-2018, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

With an injury like that nothing can be one hundred percent certain. However, reports suggest he's made significant strides forward. Why not take it for what it is instead of

all the damn time? Why you so mad?

Because our safeties are bad on their best days and downright atrocious on their worst, and this useless sack of shit has been paid $30 million so far to contribute next to nothing.

UChieffyBugger · 11-05-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's been taking significant strides forward since AUGUST.

No he hasn't. I don't recall a single report since he stopped practicing that suggested he'd made "big strides forward". Some reports suggested he may have been back by the Jaggs game, but imo that was just guesswork. This news is the best that's come out for several weeks now.

UChieffyBugger · 11-05-2018, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Because our safeties are bad on their best days and downright atrocious on their worst, and this useless sack of shit has been paid $30 million so far to contribute next to nothing.

"Useless sack of shit"? Boy you really are heated aren't you?

Injuries happen, this is football. Joey Bosa has been out for longer than him this season so is he "useless" as well?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2036899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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