News IRS Scammers in India Get Busted! - Page 3

**gblowfish** · 10-06-2016, 09:54 AM

Bout time they shut those a-holes down....

http://www.wsj.com/articles/indian-p...cam-1475674691

THANE, India—Police said three nondescript office buildings on the edge of this booming Mumbai suburb were packed with hundreds of people posing as Internal Revenue Service officials in a scam that has vexed Americans for years.

Authorities arrested 70 people Wednesday alleging they helped manage nine call-centers where around 700 people made thousands of calls a day to try to trick Americans into sending them money.

Police raided the buildings Tuesday night, authorities said. Witnesses near one of the buildings said employees who were assumed to be doing the standard kind of call center work such as helping people manage their bank accounts or buy insurance emerged in police custody covering their faces to hide their identities.

Police said the call center workers had one job: dial people in the U.S., accuse them of failing to pay their taxes and threaten them with jail time if they didn’t pay up immediately. Police didn’t give an estimate on how much money the operation netted, but the ability to employ hundreds of English-speaking people suggests it had significant revenue.

“You can call it a scam center,” said Parag Manere, a deputy commissioner of police in Thane, just east of Mumbai.

Police said those suspected of playing leading roles in the alleged fraud were being held on suspicion of cheating by impersonation and extortion. The role of hundreds of others present was still being investigated, police said. The people arrested were in custody on Wednesday evening and couldn’t be reached for comment. It was unclear if they were represented by lawyers.

U.S. authorities have struggled to combat an epidemic of swindlers targeting taxpayers. The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, an IRS watchdog, said it has received more than 1.7 million complaints in the last three years from people reporting phone calls from swindlers impersonating IRS agents. More than 8,800 victims have paid more than $47 million as a result of these scams, it added.

Representatives of the IRS and the Tigta watchdog declined to comment on the raid.

Last year a man named Sahil Patel was sentenced to 14 years in prison in New York for running the U.S. side of a huge IRS fraud that used call centers in India.

That scam squeezed about $1.2 million from hundreds of victims in the U.S. by impersonating law-enforcement officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the IRS, and claiming people owed money for bogus financial crimes. The scammers made thousands of calls and used technology to hide where they were calling from and where victims’ payments were being sent.

At a news conference Wednesday, Thane police shared a recording of a call they said was taken off the call center’s computers. A caller with a heavy Indian accent told a man he owed more than $11,780 and was facing arrest within hours, a five-year prison term and $100,000 fine if he didn't settle. The call was handed to a “senior treasury officer,” who told the man he can pay whatever he can afford right away by going to the nearest Walgreens to buy Apple iTunes gift cards worth $1,000.

“Keep yourself on speaker and get dressed,” the man was told at one point. “We are running short of time within two hours you will be taken into custody.”

In the end, the man wasn’t victimized and revealed he was just stringing the caller along to waste his time.

Mr. Manere, the deputy police commissioner, said the centers raided had been set up expressly for fraud. In some cases, they would ask people to buy gift cards for iTunes or other retailers as a way of transferring funds. In others, money was deposited in bank accounts, police said.

Param Bir Singh, Thane’s commissioner of police, said there could be more call centers engaged in similar activities in the suburb. “It could be bigger than this,” he said.

India has long been a home for call center businesses, which are part of an outsourcing industry that employs millions and is rarely connected to wrong doing.

In June, India’s National Association of Software and Services Companies said it was setting up a task force to detect and prevent fraud at outsourcing firms, but it declined to say what had prompted the move. A spokeswoman Wednesday declined to comment on the arrests but said the task force was focused on “dealing with reputational risk” by developing security, privacy and ethical standards; establishing a whistleblowing mechanism; and enhancing investigations into potential cases of fraud.

Legitimate Indian outsourcing companies in the past have been accused of trade theft. Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. , India’s biggest outsourcer by revenue, in April said it would appeal a U.S. federal jury verdict that it pay $940 million in damages to a privately held medical-software company. Verona, Wis.-based ‎Epic Systems Corp. alleged TCS illicitly downloaded materials from Epic and used them to develop a competing software product, according to court documents. A TCS spokeswoman said Wednesday she didn't have any updates on the case.

Such incidents are rare, said Dinesh Goel, a partner at outsourcing consultancy ISG India. “Generally speaking larger and more well-known firms have more sound and contemporary practices in place” when it comes to security, he said, since they work for large global clients.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-06-2016, 07:06 PM

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UL Washington · 10-06-2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Yes, bring them to the US jail system and appoint someone to call them everyday and offer them a get out of jail free card if they will provide their CC info.

Bring them here, they will do some time and get released, stay illegally and start claiming welfare checks.

GayFrogs · 10-06-2016, 08:06 PM

Skip to 1:25:30, one of these scammers calls a twitch streamer. After a few minutes the tables are turned; phone sex occurs.

https://www.twitch.tv/rybijenkins/v/93194139

Gravedigger · 10-06-2016, 08:34 PM

A young woman came into our store and bought thousands of dollars in iTunes gift cards, she was balling because she believed that they were the IRS. However foolish the whole event seemed, we helped her get the cards returned through apple and told her to make sure her bank knew about it as well. Glad to see some justice.

rabblerouser · 10-06-2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

A young woman came into our store and bought thousands of dollars in iTunes gift cards, she was balling because she believed that they were the IRS. However foolish the whole event seemed, we helped her get the cards returned through apple and told her to make sure her bank knew about it as well. Glad to see some justice.

How come there are so many stupid people in the world today?

Dragonocho · 10-06-2016, 10:05 PM

Always ask if the call center rep grew up with Freida Pinto. Just saying, there's a chance.

Swanman · 10-07-2016, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

I'd like to find out where they are all jailed and start an internet campaign to con them...'if you'll send me $50,000 Rupees I'll have you bailed out and help you immigrate to the US".

psych/80s

There were a group of guys years ago from mostly the UK that reverse-scammed those Nigerian prince idiots. They had them do all kinds of things including getting tattoos and travelling to other countries. Pretty hilarious stuff.

Swanman · 10-07-2016, 07:40 AM

People need to understand one simple thing about the IRS. They NEVER contact you by phone. Everything they do is by certified mail. Once you know that, you can have all kinds of fun with those IRS scammer savages.

Spott · 10-07-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

People need to understand one simple thing about the IRS. They NEVER contact you by phone. Everything they do is by certified mail. Once you know that, you can have all kinds of fun with those IRS scammer savages.

Unfortunately, I know this is true. I also know that they almost never answer the phone, unless you wait at least an hour or two on hold.

bobbymitch · 10-07-2016, 12:06 PM

The main reason this scam is so effective is that a lot of folks are scared to death of the IRS in the first place. They never stop and think of what is really going on.

Nickhead · 10-07-2016, 03:58 PM

there needs to be psa's like the mesothelioma commercials, for known scams, on tv.

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Police said the call center workers had one job: dial people in the U.S., accuse them of failing to pay their taxes and threaten them with jail time if they didn’t pay up immediately. Police didn’t give an estimate on how much money the operation netted, but the ability to employ hundreds of English-speaking people suggests it had significant revenue. “You can call it a scam center,” said Parag Manere, a deputy commissioner of police in Thane, just east of Mumbai. Police said those suspected of playing leading roles in the alleged fraud were being held on suspicion of cheating by impersonation and extortion. The role of hundreds of others present was still being investigated, police said. The people arrested were in custody on Wednesday evening and couldn’t be reached for comment. It was unclear if they were represented by lawyers. U.S. authorities have struggled to combat an epidemic of swindlers targeting taxpayers. The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, an IRS watchdog, said it has received more than 1.7 million complaints in the last three years from people reporting phone calls from swindlers impersonating IRS agents. More than 8,800 victims have paid more than $47 million as a result of these scams, it added. Representatives of the IRS and the Tigta watchdog declined to comment on the raid. Last year a man named Sahil Patel was sentenced to 14 years in prison in New York for running the U.S. side of a huge IRS fraud that used call centers in India. That scam squeezed about $1.2 million from hundreds of victims in the U.S. by impersonating law-enforcement officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the IRS, and claiming people owed money for bogus financial crimes. The scammers made thousands of calls and used technology to hide where they were calling from and where victims’ payments were being sent. At a news conference Wednesday, Thane police shared a recording of a call they said was taken off the call center’s computers. A caller with a heavy Indian accent told a man he owed more than $11,780 and was facing arrest within hours, a five-year prison term and $100,000 fine if he didn't settle. The call was handed to a “senior treasury officer,” who told the man he can pay whatever he can afford right away by going to the nearest Walgreens to buy Apple iTunes gift cards worth $1,000. “Keep yourself on speaker and get dressed,” the man was told at one point. “We are running short of time within two hours you will be taken into custody.” In the end, the man wasn’t victimized and revealed he was just stringing the caller along to waste his time. Mr. Manere, the deputy police commissioner, said the centers raided had been set up expressly for fraud. In some cases, they would ask people to buy gift cards for iTunes or other retailers as a way of transferring funds. In others, money was deposited in bank accounts, police said. Param Bir Singh, Thane’s commissioner of police, said there could be more call centers engaged in similar activities in the suburb. “It could be bigger than this,” he said. India has long been a home for call center businesses, which are part of an outsourcing industry that employs millions and is rarely connected to wrong doing. In June, India’s National Association of Software and Services Companies said it was setting up a task force to detect and prevent fraud at outsourcing firms, but it declined to say what had prompted the move. A spokeswoman Wednesday declined to comment on the arrests but said the task force was focused on “dealing with reputational risk” by developing security, privacy and ethical standards; establishing a whistleblowing mechanism; and enhancing investigations into potential cases of fraud. Legitimate Indian outsourcing companies in the past have been accused of trade theft. Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. , India’s biggest outsourcer by revenue, in April said it would appeal a U.S. federal jury verdict that it pay $940 million in damages to a privately held medical-software company. Verona, Wis.-based ‎Epic Systems Corp. alleged TCS illicitly downloaded materials from Epic and used them to develop a competing software product, according to court documents. A TCS spokeswoman said Wednesday she didn't have any updates on the case. Such incidents are rare, said Dinesh Goel, a partner at outsourcing consultancy ISG India. “Generally speaking larger and more well-known firms have more sound and contemporary practices in place” when it comes to security, he said, since they work for large global clients.
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