Jags QB coach: Gabbert would be best QB in this draft

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by O.city

Congrats by the way, apperantly the Jags are going to get Bridgewater next year, who is the next MontanaElwayManningBrady.

Screw Underwater. I don't want him. I don't want "next year" until it's actually 2014. I want 2013 and I want Bray in the second. Plain and simple.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

jagoffs demonstrating some sweet FAIL.
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[KCrockaholic]

I also heard today that Branden Weeden would be the #1 pick in this years draft.

These are great stories to tell our children.

[silver5liter]

**** andrew luck and rg3 for making every media turd go... well the qb class isnt that good. When in reality it is actually a pretty deep class.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by silver5liter

**** andrew luck and rg3 for making every media turd go... well the qb class isnt that good. When in reality it is actually a pretty deep class.

This QB group is average to below average in my opinion.

But the theory that because the class is relatively weak, so that means no QB is "worth the #1" pick, is wrong.

Nope, Geno isn't the same prospect as Luck. And doesn't have the flashy 40 time of Griffin, but he's a legitimate 1st round quarterback.

And to me, he's the only QB worthy of being taken #1 overall. Because I think there's a large separation between Geno and the 2nd closest guy which happens to be Glennon in my book. Glennon, Wilson, and Barkley are all guys that I wouldn't touch until the 2nd round, and I'd even consider moving Barkley back to 3rd round. I think Nassib has more going for him than Barkley does. And it's not that I hate Barkley, but I don't like how he's going to translate to the NFL game. Same reason I don't like Wilson. I don't think he has starting NFL tools to work with outside of nice intangibles.

But if Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder can go in the top 10 in the same draft class, this class isn't all that bad.

But somehow because now not every draft class has Luck, Griffin, Wilson, Tannehill, the fans who haven't dug deep into this QB class, and just listen to dumbass Kiper, and douchebag McShay go around repeating the same shit they've heard on TV.

The Geno fans have spoken about why they want Geno and why he has the tools to succeed in the NFL. Then there's the anti-Geno fans who have no reasoning. They just continue to parrot the same thing back and forth about how "No QB worth dez nuber one pick". If someone brought something to the table about WHY Geno isn't worthy taking a chance on I'd love to sit and listen to it. I know Geno's flaws. I've seen about 30 full games of Geno over the past 2 months. And most of those games multiple times. I then went and found every single Geno interview I could on the internet. And watched them, and listened to how he talked and acted. I've done all my homework on the guy. It's time for the anti-Geno club to step up and provide theirs.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

But if Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder can go in the top 10 in the same draft class, this class isn't all that bad.

Those 2 guys are why this year's crop is gonna drop. Some of the QB's thought to go in round 1 this year will be available later.

Given that, how would you like to be Jax or Minn and going after your 2nd high round QB just a few years later?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Those 2 guys are why this year's crop is gonna drop. Some of the QB's thought to go in round 1 this year will be available later.

Given that, how would you like to be Jax or Minn and going after your 2nd high round QB just a few years later?

At least they're trying.

We're going on our 2nd high round QB in 3 ****ing decades...

[patteeu]

This was probably posted in some megathread somewhere, but it belongs here too.

This morning on 810's Border Patrol, Terry Shea of IMG Academy was on to talk about the college quarterbacks that are training at IMG (Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Tyler Wilson). He agreed with Frank Scelfo that Blaine Gabbert would go ahead of all three of them if he were coming out in 2013. Ouch. It's worth noting that he worked with Gabbert when Gabbert was training for his combine. He's currently working directly with Tyler Wilson. Geno Smith and Matt Barkley are working with someone else from IMG.

Here are a few other quick notes. In general, as you might expect, he was mostly positive about all three QBs.

Geno Smith - Isn't the best fit for a West Coast offense (like Andy Reid's) because of his lack of experience taking snaps under center. But if you just talk in more generic terms, it seemed like he was saying Geno Smith was the top prospect of the three. If anyone else was listening, maybe they can confirm or deny that impression.

Tyler Wilson - Most accurate of the three. Said he had "sweet feet" (patteeu comment: so maybe Rex Ryan will be interested? *groan*).

Matt Barkley - Seemed to give him the nod as the guy who is most ready to run a West Coast offense in terms of taking snaps from center, dropping back, running play action, understanding the defense pre-snap and as the play develops.

Bottom line: All three have deficiencies and he was only luke warm, at best, on the idea of any of them being worthy of the top pick overall.

[HotCarl]

Originally Posted by patteeu

This was probably posted in some megathread somewhere, but it belongs here too.

This morning on 810's Border Patrol, Terry Shea of IMG Academy was on to talk about the college quarterbacks that are training at IMG (Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Tyler Wilson). He agreed with Frank Scelfo that Blaine Gabbert would go ahead of all three of them if he were coming out in 2013. Ouch. It's worth noting that he worked with Gabbert when Gabbert was training for his combine. He's currently working directly with Tyler Wilson. Geno Smith and Matt Barkley are working with someone else from IMG.

Here are a few other quick notes. In general, as you might expect, he was mostly positive about all three QBs.

Geno Smith - Isn't the best fit for a West Coast offense (like Andy Reid's) because of his lack of experience taking snaps under center. But if you just talk in more generic terms, it seemed like he was saying Geno Smith was the top prospect of the three. If anyone else was listening, maybe they can confirm or deny that impression.

Tyler Wilson - Most accurate of the three. Said he had "sweet feet" (patteeu comment: so maybe Rex Ryan will be interested? *groan*).

Matt Barkley - Seemed to give him the nod as the guy who is most ready to run a West Coast offense in terms of taking snaps from center, dropping back, running play action, understanding the defense pre-snap and as the play develops.

Bottom line: All three have deficiencies and he was only luke warm, at best, on the idea of any of them being worthy of the top pick overall.

Boy, if that isn't telling, I don't know what is!

[Beef Supreme]

The Jags QB coach...

There you have it folks, from the world's foremost authority on evaluating quarterbacks.

[htismaqe]

Gauging trade interest.

Just like the Browns, who are telling people that Weeden would be the #1 QB in this class.

Completely see-through.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

yeah poor jax and minn; actually making an effort to be relevant in the modern NFL...
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[Saul Good]

Jags are trying to talk the Chiefs out of drafting Geno.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Jags are trying to talk the Chiefs out of drafting Geno.

And perhaps they're trying to deal Gabbert as well.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

And perhaps they're trying to deal Gabbert as well.

Or they're getting thier fans ready for another year of Gabbert.