PFT: Chiefs, Houston to try again this week

[Dante84]

Chiefs, Houston to try again this week
Posted by Mike Florio on February 15, 2015, 10:44 AM EST

In the past, the Chiefs and linebacker Justin Houston have tried, without success, to work out a new contract. In the near future, they’ll try again.

Per a league source, the Chiefs and Houston’s agent, Joel Segal, will make another attempt early in the week at making progress on a long-term deal. The Chiefs are expected to apply the franchise tag to Houston, who racked up 22 sacks in 2014, absent an agreement.

Houston had been expected to sign the franchise tender immediately. It’s possible that a new strategy will emerge if the coming talks fail to result in Houston receiving the kind of contract he believes he deserves.

Let's hope they can get this thing buttoned up.


UPDATE:

Chiefs, Houston to talk Tuesday

As expected, the Chiefs and linebacker Justin Houston will make one last effort to work out a long-term deal, before Kansas City applies the franchise tag.

Per a league source, Chiefs G.M. John Dorsey and Houston’s agent, Joel Segal, are scheduled to meet on Tuesday in Indianapolis to discuss a long-term deal for the man who racked up 22.0 sacks in 2014.

Previously, Houston’s plan was to immediately sign the franchise tender if/when the Chiefs apply it. Now, Houston may have a different plan in mind, if a long-term deal isn’t worked out.

The Chiefs cleared some cap space on Tuesday by dumping receiver Donnie Avery and receiver A.J. Jenkins. That could be used to pay Houston on a long-term deal, or it could be used to fund his one-year franchise tag.

I'm assuming this means next Tuesday, Feb. 24th.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

How many sacks did the sack leaders for the Patriots and the Seahawks have?

How many playoff wins do Derrick Thomas and Jared Allen have?

If you can bring constant pressure from a myriad of sources, it's irrelevant that you have a "sack master" on your defense. Totally overrated statistic that is the defensive version of total passing yardage by a QB. (Dan Marino or Matt Stafford anyone?)

You don't cripple a team by paying a guy an exorbitant sum of money to make 1.5 tackles for loss a game in his best season.

If Houston doesn't agree to a reasonable hometown contract such as what A. Smith did for his position, I'd be happy to have the 2015 season start with Dee Ford at the position. First round draft pick and all...

Shut up ****face

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Well, as of right now - we're over the estimate.

Lots of dead weight to cut

[MMXcalibur]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

How many sacks did the sack leaders for the Patriots and the Seahawks have?

How many playoff wins do Derrick Thomas and Jared Allen have?

If you can bring constant pressure from a myriad of sources, it's irrelevant that you have a "sack master" on your defense. Totally overrated statistic that is the defensive version of total passing yardage by a QB. (Dan Marino or Matt Stafford anyone?)

You don't cripple a team by paying a guy an exorbitant sum of money to make 1.5 tackles for loss a game in his best season.

If Houston doesn't agree to a reasonable hometown contract such as what A. Smith did for his position, I'd be happy to have the 2015 season start with Dee Ford at the position. First round draft pick and all...

[Nightfyre]

Wait, wait, wait.... Sac ACTUALLY thinks Alex Smith signed a hometown deal? Are you ****ing kidding me right now? Surely, someone has hacked into Sacc's account and has been trolling with it this whole offseason.

[BossChief]

Sac is obviously trolling with every post lately.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Lots of dead weight to cut

Funny, we said that last year - and none of it was cut. (Daniel, Fasano, DeVito, etc.)

[Discuss Thrower]

Watt had more value playing the way he did on a rookie contract in Houston than he does now then he does now for the Texans. Unfortunately for the Texans, the Kubiak regime's collapse didn't happen "soon" enough and there's no way McClain couldn't justify shopping their biggest star for draft picks.

Now you look at the present and the Texans are a middling team that just parked a Brinks' truck in JJ Watt's driveway. Great player, but -as I've pointed out- that just because you've got a guy who's capable of leading the league in sacks year after year it doesn't mean you'll win when it matters in January. His contract is a big portion of their cap when the team is deficient at the position that matters the most: quarterback.

Houston went 9-7 last season and was in technically in contention for a playoff spot -albeit they'd need help- and they improved in almost every facet from their 2-14 finish the season prior.

However, those nine wins came against Washington, Oakland, Buffalo, Tennessee, Cleveland, Tennessee again, Jacksonville, Baltimore and then Jacksonville. JJ Watt and the defense beat RG3, David Carr, EJ Manuel, Zach Mettenberger, Brian Hoyer, Mettenberger, Blake Bortles, Flacco and Bortles again.

Their defense couldn't beat the teams quarterbacked by Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck (twice), Ben Roethlisberger, Mark Sanchez and Andy Dalton.

Five wins against rookie quarterbacks... And they couldn't beat high-level quarterbacks and lost to CP whipping boys Andy Dalton and Mark Sanchez. And this was with their franchise player JJ Watt playing an MVP caliber season.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Are you trolling, or do you just not know how the Tag works?

Yes

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Funny, we said that last year - and none of it was cut. (Daniel, Fasano, DeVito, etc.)

just added more on top of that shit sandwich in Mays and Walker

[Discuss Thrower]

Does anyone expect to see the Texans playing in the AFC Championship game in the next two seasons?

[Mother****erJones]

Hey sac, how many sacks did the Giants get when they won? They won 2 Super Bowls with a great pass rush

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

???

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Watt had more value playing the way he did on a rookie contract in Houston than he does now then he does now for the Texans. Unfortunately for the Texans, the Kubiak regime's collapse didn't happen "soon" enough and there's no way McClain couldn't justify shopping their biggest star for draft picks.

Now you look at the present and the Texans are a middling team that just parked a Brinks' truck in JJ Watt's driveway. Great player, but -as I've pointed out- that just because you've got a guy who's capable of leading the league in sacks year after year it doesn't mean you'll win when it matters in January. His contract is a big portion of their cap when the team is deficient at the position that matters the most: quarterback.

Houston went 9-7 last season and was in technically in contention for a playoff spot -albeit they'd need help- and they improved in almost every facet from their 2-14 finish the season prior.

However, those nine wins came against Washington, Oakland, Buffalo, Tennessee, Cleveland, Tennessee again, Jacksonville, Baltimore and then Jacksonville. JJ Watt and the defense beat RG3, David Carr, EJ Manuel, Zach Mettenberger, Brian Hoyer, Mettenberger, Blake Bortles, Flacco and Bortles again.

Their defense couldn't beat the teams quarterbacked by Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck (twice), Ben Roethlisberger, Mark Sanchez and Andy Dalton.

Five wins against rookie quarterbacks... And they couldn't beat high-level quarterbacks and lost to CP whipping boys Andy Dalton and Mark Sanchez. And this was with their franchise player JJ Watt playing an MVP caliber season.

The salary cap isn't the reason why Houston can't find a QB

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Does anyone expect to see the Texans playing in the AFC Championship game in the next two seasons?

Depends on if they find a qb or not.

[Dante84]

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