Mellinger: First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

Marv Levy's teams improved each year for the first 3 years he was the HC, in the era when it did take 5 years to build a team that could compete.

He got ****ed over by the player strike.

I still believe, had he not been fired after a strike year, fielding a team of terrible replacement players, and allowed to continue his rebuild of that team after the strike, that he would have been successful over the long term in Kansas City.

Yeah, they improved but not through "normal" means. The Wing T?



I liked Levy but I do believe he had a fair opportunity in KC. I know that Lamar Hunt said his biggest regret was firing Marv, but I also believe that Marv wouldn't have had the success he had in Buffalo without the growing pains he experienced in KC (and to a lesser degree, the USFL).

He had a helluva coaching staff, especially offensively, in Buffalo.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, they improved but not through "normal" means. The Wing T?



I liked Levy but I do believe he had a fair opportunity in KC. I know that Lamar Hunt said his biggest regret was firing Marv, but I also believe that Marv wouldn't have had the success he had in Buffalo without the growing pains he experienced in KC (and to a lesser degree, the USFL).

He did what he had to do to compete.

He was hired onto a team that was complete shit.

Last year was the worst year I can remember, but that's because this team had better talent overall than a 2-14 record would indicate.

But that was the product of piss poor coaching and QB play.

Those teams in the early 80s had some of the worst football players we've ever seen in our lives.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

He did what he had to do to compete.

He was hired onto a team that was complete shit.

Last year was the worst year I can remember, but that's because this team had better talent overall than a 2-14 record would indicate.

But that was the product of piss poor coaching and QB play.

Those teams in the early 80s had some of the worst football players we've ever seen in our lives.

Offensively, maybe, outside of Delaney. But defensively, the had some real players. Either way, the end result was the same. No playoffs, no playoff wins, losing seasons.

And just for the record, I wasn't then or am now "Anti-Marv", although I don't think that he would have had the same results in KC as he had in Buffalo, mainly due to Jim Schaaf.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Offensively, maybe, outside of Delaney. But defensively, the had some real players. Either way, the end result was the same. No playoffs, no playoff wins, losing seasons.

And just for the record, I wasn't then or am now "Anti-Marv", although I don't think that he would have had the same results in KC as he had in Buffalo, mainly due to Jim Schaaf.

Maybe.

But outside of DT, the core group of players that Marty had his early success with wer the players drafted by Schaaf.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

Maybe.

But outside of DT, the core group of players that Marty had his early success with wer the players drafted by Schaaf.

Yeah, absolutely. But even in the Steadman/Schaaf era, they were hesitant to scout and draft QB's consistently. I do give them credit for Fuller and Blackledge for trying, but there should have been a ton of guys in between and after.

As a Chiefs fan, I have to wonder if those decisions, or non-decisions, influenced Levy but even moreso, Polian.

He was never shy about drafting a QB once he left KC.