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Old 02-13-2013, 08:40 PM   #1
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That's why the average tenure is like 4 years.
Yeah, I'm thinking that's probably not the case.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:49 PM   #2
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Yeah, I'm thinking that's probably not the case.
Taking another pass rusher, when you have 2 pro bowlers and ZILCH at QB, which is the situation the Chiefs are in, is absolutely why guys get fired.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:33 PM   #3
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Clowney does have rare talent. He's gonna be a beast.

But I think it's bullshit that players are forced to go to college if they are perfectly capable of earning money without college. Like look at the dude from Kentucky, all that money = gone because he was forced to go to college.

This is just another way of control. If you can come out of high school and an NBA team wants to hire you, they should be allowed to. If a football player is ready to play in the NFL and teams are willing to pay you, that shouldn't be disallowed.

After all, earning money is the only reason why people go to college. Because they want to make money!

Money is all that matters in this country, so they should be allowed to earn it.

I bet the NBA/NFL is in collusion with the NCAA. It's another way of controlling people, they are forced to go to college and will get in huge trouble if they even take any money from someone while everyone else around them are getting rich off of them. It's not right. NBA teams get another scouting year while NCAA teams make money off of them.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:53 PM   #4
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But I think it's bullshit that players are forced to go to college if they are perfectly capable of earning money without college. Like look at the dude from Kentucky, all that money = gone because he was forced to go to college.

This is just another way of control. If you can come out of high school and an NBA team wants to hire you, they should be allowed to. If a football player is ready to play in the NFL and teams are willing to pay you, that shouldn't be disallowed.

After all, earning money is the only reason why people go to college. Because they want to make money!

Money is all that matters in this country, so they should be allowed to earn it.

I bet the NBA/NFL is in collusion with the NCAA. It's another way of controlling people, they are forced to go to college and will get in huge trouble if they even take any money from someone while everyone else around them are getting rich off of them. It's not right. NBA teams get another scouting year while NCAA teams make money off of them.


The NFL is private company. They can run their company and set their rules anyway they want.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:58 PM   #5
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The NFL is private company. They can run their company and set their rules anyway they want.
They have an antitrust exemption. They can't run their company any way they want.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:14 PM   #6
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Clowney does have rare talent. He's gonna be a beast.

But I think it's bullshit that players are forced to go to college if they are perfectly capable of earning money without college. Like look at the dude from Kentucky, all that money = gone because he was forced to go to college.

This is just another way of control. If you can come out of high school and an NBA team wants to hire you, they should be allowed to. If a football player is ready to play in the NFL and teams are willing to pay you, that shouldn't be disallowed.

After all, earning money is the only reason why people go to college. Because they want to make money!

Money is all that matters in this country, so they should be allowed to earn it.

I bet the NBA/NFL is in collusion with the NCAA. It's another way of controlling people, they are forced to go to college and will get in huge trouble if they even take any money from someone while everyone else around them are getting rich off of them. It's not right. NBA teams get another scouting year while NCAA teams make money off of them.
The rules concerning having to go to college for a certain amount of time before being able to turn pro have benefits for the student athletes, the NCAA, and the professional leagues. The athletes get time to mature and time to find out if they actually have what it takes to play at the next level. The NCAA gets to reap the benefits of marketing these athletes and making a profit, and the professional leagues get to lessen their risks by actually getting to see these athletes play against other top competition before investing millions on teenagers.

This bullshit about the kids get nothing while everyone else gets rich is stupid. A free college education is nothing to sneeze at. Most of these kids are going to need skills other than their athletic prowess to make a living. College affords them the opportunity to acquire these skills. It's just too bad they don't all realize this.

Your argument that these kids are forced to go to college is false by the way. They don't have to go to college. They could simply get a job, stay in shape, and apply for the NBA or NFL draft when they are old enough.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:37 PM   #7
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Remember when the Texans took Mario Williams #1?

Was he worth it in the end?
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:48 PM   #9
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Remember when the Texans took Mario Williams #1?

Was he worth it in the end?
Over Bush yes
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Remember when the Texans took Mario Williams #1?

Was he worth it in the end?
2 different players bro, nice try.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:50 PM   #11
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2 different players bro, nice try.
Almost no difference between them as prospects.

Mario Williams was a freaking beast in every sense of the word.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:55 PM   #12
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Almost no difference between them as prospects.

Mario Williams was a freaking beast in every sense of the word.
So was Peyton and Leaf.


2 different guys with similar things and stuff.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:58 PM   #13
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So was Peyton and Leaf.


2 different guys with similar things and stuff.
That's a poor comparison.

Mario Williams is a very, very good DE. He's not a bust. He's averaged 10 sacks a year for the last 6 seasons.

But neither of the franchises he's played for have done shit. Why? Because even great pass rushers are tied to the fate of the QB leading the team.

Derrick Thomas much?
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:50 PM   #14
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Remember when the Texans took Mario Williams #1?

Was he worth it in the end?

Should they have drafted Vince Young?
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:52 PM   #15
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Should they have drafted Vince Young?
One could argue they should have taken Jay Cutler.

Instead they took Williams, went with Schaub, and have been a pretender ever since.
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